Aviate Pass Rate Under 35%
03-04-2020, 07:11 AM
#271
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Originally Posted by boyracer
I wrote a letter of recommendation for an FO a few weeks ago. He’s a great guy , good pilot for his experience level, funny , great life story to tell since he’s from Cuba and has a 4 year degree. On the day he interviewed there were 8 FO’s from XJT and all
got no thank you letters. That’s 8 people under a year with no reason to stay here. The program needs a change.
got no thank you letters. That’s 8 people under a year with no reason to stay here. The program needs a change.
Imagine getting a no from Aviate and then being displaced from the 175? Most will probably leave in that scenario.
What a total scam.
03-04-2020, 09:33 AM
#272
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Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR
Wow, yet these pilots will be flying United passengers and representing their brand.
Imagine getting a no from Aviate and then being displaced from the 175? Most will probably leave in that scenario.
What a total scam.
Imagine getting a no from Aviate and then being displaced from the 175? Most will probably leave in that scenario.
What a total scam.
Unfortunately some are
03-04-2020, 05:54 PM
#273
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Originally Posted by afterburn81
Has anyone from the Aviate program been in a newhire class at UAL?
We are referring to the union derived data from Aviate successors and those who were unsuccessful. Not CPP or OTS.
Not sure how that’s bitter but ok, whatever you say. Very happy you made it to UA. Perhaps had you applied through the Aviate program, you might not have made it. There’s a pretty clear CJO criteria that differs from programs of the past.
We are referring to the union derived data from Aviate successors and those who were unsuccessful. Not CPP or OTS.
Not sure how that’s bitter but ok, whatever you say. Very happy you made it to UA. Perhaps had you applied through the Aviate program, you might not have made it. There’s a pretty clear CJO criteria that differs from programs of the past.
03-04-2020, 06:07 PM
#274
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Originally Posted by YANXJTPilot
Just over 1400 pilots on the bidding list across all bases for March 2020 bid.
Letter today says 168 are waiting to go to United.
That's 12% of the pilot list.
Discuss.
Letter today says 168 are waiting to go to United.
That's 12% of the pilot list.
Discuss.
03-05-2020, 06:10 AM
#277
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Originally Posted by Cessna182TypeR
Wow, yet these pilots will be flying United passengers and representing their brand.
Imagine getting a no from Aviate and then being displaced from the 175? Most will probably leave in that scenario.
What a total scam.
Imagine getting a no from Aviate and then being displaced from the 175? Most will probably leave in that scenario.
What a total scam.
Over Christmas new year we lost a stack of Capt and FOs to Jetblue and Frontier.
03-05-2020, 09:59 AM
#278
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Originally Posted by CPPfacts
Looks like nobody is going over any time soon. But hey it brought in the new recruits.
In 2016 when the CPP started, it helped stem the massive attrition of both CA's and FO's somewhat, as well as kept what would have been a record number of sick calls down that summer, and the next. Meanwhile interviewing and turning down a TON of good candidates. Morale drops, so they come out with the "streamlined CPP", wash, rinse, repeat. Then 'CPP 2.0", wash, rinse, repeat.
Originally Posted by climb150
They said no to all eight? Wow thats awful.
Wash, rinse, repeat...
03-05-2020, 10:10 AM
#279
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Originally Posted by John Carr
It's amazing how many times our HR can reinvent the program in an attempt to stop the attrition and get pilots to go to XJT and other CPP/AVIATE UAX carriers.
03-05-2020, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by beefburrito
I get the feeling they're going to do it again before too long but it will be the same old thing. A new name but lots of hoops to jump through making it unattainable for most.
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