point80

How is this operating under the assumption? To me this looks like the preparation of a bunch of FOs on the street.

BRJPilot

Do you really think that saving cash now is going to protect anyone's job after September if the schedules going forward require reduced staffing?

Itsajob

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pay%20rate

The purpose of requiring companies to give the government historic payroll expense was to determine the level of funding that was distributed. Going from a captain who maxed out their hours out last year to a first officer making reserve guarantee is a substantial reduction in take home pay, but the company didn’t reduce any rates. It’s not always about the spirit of the law, but the actual wording. When the 14th Amendment was passed, the spirit and intent of the law was to give the recently freed slaves the rights of citizenship as a free people born into this country, not as property, as was the case before. Granting anchor babies citizenship never was their intent or within the spirit of the law, but it is within the actual text. I don’t want to start some big political debate on immigration, this is just an example of the spirit vs what the law actually says.

Itsajob

A bunch of pilots from every airline in the country are going to be on the street unless demand miraculously returns in the next 6 months.

piloto2

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Definition of pay rate: the amount of money workers are paid per hour, week, etc.

When you change someones pay from $75/hr to $42 per hour, you changed their pay rate. No, it wasn't across the board for everyone, but it was a pay rate change for those impacted. Again, please show me where exactly in the act it states "published hourly rates".

piloto2

Yes, and that will likely happen in October. But the truth is that they are cutting pay rates for some right now, ahead of the date in the CARES act.

point80

Except without the CARES ACT it will be a lot sooner. Again their has yet to be news that XJT is getting anything. He said they were operating under the assumption that they were. My question is how is moving people from the left seat to the right operating under that assumption?
Might want to read the entire discussion before chiming in with a pointless comment. But thanks for the input.

CaseTractor

Whoever has the dumpster fire gif animation handy would do well to post it again to keep up the tradition

rickair7777

Not a chance in h3ll.

Regarding downgrades, many airlines will be doing that this summer to set the table for easy furloughs.

If it is determined that it's in violation of the CARES act, they'll simply pay protect the downgrades until 01 Oct. But I bet they try to make it a paycut and see what they can get away with.

BRJPilot

Two separate things. The company believes that downgrading someone isn't a pay rate change. They can't do that across the board and they can't furlough at this point, but they are trying to save some money short term by effectively reducing the rate for some employees.