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Old 08-18-2020, 08:11 PM
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There going with there own fresh certificate...

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There going with there own fresh certificate...

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No. They are getting a new factory fresh certificate,not a certified pre owned one


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No. They are getting a new factory fresh certificate,not a certified pre owned one


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Because Alpa demanded the pilot contract for compass or xjt be honored by the certificate holder , whoever that may be and breeze said go pound sand we will get our own without any demands on pay and work rules
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Because Alpa demanded the pilot contract for compass or xjt be honored by the certificate holder , whoever that may be and breeze said go pound sand we will get our own without any demands on pay and work rules
How can a union make demands on a new owner?
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How can a union make demands on a new owner?
They can’t. Previous agreements were with the company, not the certificate.
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Originally Posted by Hedley View Post
They can’t. Previous agreements were with the company, not the certificate.
An argument can be made that the company is based on the certificate.
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An argument can be made that the company is based on the certificate.
An airline requires a certificate to operate. Any union contract is between that union and the company. When the company goes away, so does the contract. After the airline is gone if someone were to buy the certificate and start another airline, there would be no obligation to honor previous agreements or hire former employees. In this case it could be that amending the XJT certificate to do what they wanted was more trouble and expense than just starting from scratch.
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Old 08-21-2020, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley View Post
An airline requires a certificate to operate. Any union contract is between that union and the company. When the company goes away, so does the contract. After the airline is gone if someone were to buy the certificate and start another airline, there would be no obligation to honor previous agreements or hire former employees. In this case it could be that amending the XJT certificate to do what they wanted was more trouble and expense than just starting from scratch.
ALPA did right for the compass pilot group. It also sent a message to Breeze.
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An argument can be made that the company is based on the certificate.
No it can't.
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