tallpilot

The idea of a 'national seniority list' (which is a misnomer since trade unions are almost all confined to the state level or smaller) works fairly well with a relatively homogeneous labor pool working on a job site for a specified period of time. Go do an install for new construction for a few weeks, then go do a repair somewhere else, then go do a remodel. That doesn't translate well to 121 rules. We'd all be doing indoc every few years.

It is heartbreaking to start over but much of that can be fixed by reducing the extreme disparity between the bottom and the top. It is only the Ponzi scheme nature of the system that causes so much heartburn.

The current situation should help. Captains who thought they had a safe seat might want to vote for higher FO pay now. Pilots who thought they would never see reserve again might want to vote for better reserve work rules now. Reducing the huge differences between aircraft types would have the side benefit of reducing the ridiculous number of training events displacements cause.

JohnnyBekkestad

I don’t think a national list would work, but pay programs that allow for some higher pay based on experience should be at all carriers. OO will pay up to 10 years of prior experience

pangolin

Is OO still offering that in the current environment? Doubtful.

JohnnyBekkestad

OO is not hiring at the moment so in that sense you are correct. But i do know that the people that are on property are still getting their pay based on prior experience. And once OO starts hiring again i would expect for the Soft Landings to resume again.

Turbine

This specifically screws over expressjet pilots who have already been hired at united through the United Aviate program. Since XJT is going out of business, these pilots will need to get their 1,000 hours or whatever is required at another United Express carrier. Making it harder for these guys and gals to get hired at Commutair is limiting their ability to do so.

ReadOnly7

I wouldn’t believe for a second that C5 is avoiding XJT people. I’m sure a 145 type is a positive thing for being hired. Attitude at the interview will make all the difference.

dead meat

This is how misinformation gets spread. Please try to do a little research before making a factually incorrect post. From the CommutAir forum:

"Current plan is for 36 new hire FOs and a net of 72 pilot positions by end of the year. 8 former C5ers have already been interviewed or otherwise expressed an interest in returning under LOA 3 and these internal interviews are ongoing. External pilot interviews will begin mid-September. Former C5ers, TSA, ExpressJet, or other UAX carrier pilots with a 145 type will be hired preferentially."

Nobody is making it harder for anyone to get hired at CommutAir. Actually, the hiring process at CommutAir is anything but "hard". Please stop with the nonsense that you posted.

jacburn

Not just at the interview.

For some, it is already too late. For others, they get an advantage.

Xelectro

This is equivalent to this:
Your neighbor divorces his wife and leaves her with nothing. And in order to prevent her kids from starving, you are now forced to marry her and take in all her 5 kids. Doesn’t get anymore socialist then that. 😂

Hedley

Is she hot?