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Old 08-29-2020, 02:15 PM   #51  
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OO is not hiring at the moment so in that sense you are correct. But i do know that the people that are on property are still getting their pay based on prior experience. And once OO starts hiring again i would expect for the Soft Landings to resume again.
When instituted, it was applied retroactively to pilots on the list who had previous 121 longevity. So they will not be taking it away from anyone on the list, they got that in consideration for allowing the company to incentive lateral-transfer new hires. They might choose to not offer it for future new-hires but I kind of suspect they will.
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Is she hot?
Five kids? That would take a lot of hot. Possible I suppose.
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Using your example, being that the neighbor was married 10 years, and you have only been married 5, when she moves in, she gets the master bedroom and you and your junior wife get bumped to the guest room.
As long as she's hot and you have occasional access to the master bedroom, all good.
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The newlyweds who were in the guest room get bumped out of the house. The bottom line is that a national seniority list, or dealing with two wives is just an idea that will never work.
Especially with the RLA... there's a reason ALPA is an "association" and not "ALPU".
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Another way to look at a national seniority list. If another airline failed, would others want those pilots coming to their airline in seniority order and bumping them down? As an example, would other regionals like it if the very senior pilots from XJT went to their company and took the senior slots? I doubt it. We all like to talk about industry unity until it affects us in a bad way, then all bets are off. A national seniority list is good from the prospective of people working for a failing company, itís bad for the rest.
XJT was closed down because we had too many high-longevity pilots, who command higher pay and several weeks paid vacation every year. XJT did not fail, this was an opportunistic shutdown to save money by going with someone cheaper.

With a national seniority list, the difference between the most junior airline and the most senior airline would likely have been much smaller. Which means XJT might not have been shutdown. The entire industry would have a more stable labor cost structure and management would be forced to compete in other areas. Lateral moves would keep longevity about the same at all airlines.

Also, every start-up airline has a huge cost advantage because all their pilots start at bottom year 1 pay, no union and with a basic contract. This has a destabilizing effect on other, more established carriers.

That said, I agree with Tallpilot. This is more of an economic problem not a legal problem. Itís within the reach of pilots to minimize the problems of lateral moves but Iím also not holding my breath itíll actually happen. After all, ďI paid my dues and now you will have to pay yoursĒ says the senior pilot, right?
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Heck, if lateral moves were easy Iíd bet the number of commuters out there would drastically reduce.
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