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Old 08-15-2020, 05:56 AM   #1  
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Default C5 Mgt Wonít hire XJT?

Is this true?
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Old 08-15-2020, 05:57 AM   #2  
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I donít know. Where are you hearing this
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Old 08-15-2020, 06:12 AM   #3  
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Although CommutAir seems to be planning quick growth of both aircraft and bases, and we are working with their MEC to provide our pilots some sort of leg up at their airline, it is our understanding that their management team is against any direct help to our pilot group at this time.
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Although CommutAir seems to be planning quick growth of both aircraft and bases, and we are working with their MEC to provide our pilots some sort of leg up at their airline, it is our understanding that their management team is against any direct help to our pilot group at this time.
oh yeah, dunno how I missed that
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"Management Team is against any direct help" means, at face value, that they don't want to establish any sort of flow, preferential interview, etc.

Doesn't specifically state that they don't want to hire EV alumni. There would actually be no legit business reason (and thus liability exposure) to specifically exclude EV people, especially since they have very relevant type experience (as well as "United Express Experience", which as you may recall has been used as a regional hiring criteria in the past).

Time will tell how they really feel.
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My guess would be they are against incentives or guarantees. They (rightfully) realize it's a buyer's market for pilots and they have no intention of paying a dime more than what is in the current contract. They have indicated they wish to hire the most qualified applicants they can. Certainly typed and current pilots meet that standard.

They are wary (rightfully again) of having bitter pilots sabotaging the operation. The hardest thing is going to be eating this crap sandwich and still being a team player. I'm not sure I could do it so I won't be sanctimonious about it.

If you interview try your best to be cheerful, appreciative and don't reveal a sense of entitlement. That will give you the best chance.
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My guess would be they are against incentives or guarantees. They (rightfully) realize it's a buyer's market for pilots and they have no intention of paying a dime more than what is in the current contract. They have indicated they wish to hire the most qualified applicants they can. Certainly typed and current pilots meet that standard.

They are wary (rightfully again) of having bitter pilots sabotaging the operation. The hardest thing is going to be eating this crap sandwich and still being a team player. I'm not sure I could do it so I won't be sanctimonious about it.

If you interview try your best to be cheerful, appreciative and don't reveal a sense of entitlement. That will give you the best chance.
Also there might be problems with different pay scales
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Is this true?
Not true. The company isn't going to just staple everyone to the bottom of the list or hire everyone from XJT that applies either.
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Also there might be problems with different pay scales
The FOs are about to take a pretty significant pay cut and the union doesn't have any leverage to stop it. Giving new hires any sort of incentive pay in that environment is only going to exacerbate discontent.
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"Direct help" sounds like preferential treatment. Management isn't against hiring XJT pilots. My understanding is C5 is giving UAL and UAX pilots preferential interviews but that's it.
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