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wmuflyboy 03-30-2009 01:27 PM

ExpressJet
 
I am a flight instructor at ABE and there are 2 ExpressJet EMBs at the fbo right now. I thought they stopped all of their branded flying. Any insight??

Bloodhound 03-30-2009 01:28 PM

Charter flights

wmuflyboy 03-30-2009 01:29 PM

whats the difference then?

Bloodhound 03-30-2009 01:32 PM

The branded was scheduled service. The charter is on demand. The big contracts are with college teams and NASCAR.

fjetter 03-30-2009 01:33 PM

I believe they were doing regularly scheduled flights as expressjet in the branded aircraft and using them for charter flights. Now any flights using those aircraft are chartered aircraft. Not sure if they use them as spares ie RAH style or not.

RadarContact 03-30-2009 01:33 PM

Branded is scheduled service. Charter is on demand. They are using it just like a company would charter a GV, only for a lot more people - sports teams, large corporate groups etc.

fjetter 03-30-2009 01:36 PM

I think the issue for the OP has probably been answered, any good news coming out of XJT? Any possibility of recalls for attrition, growth?? Or worse any further furloughs?? Don't hear to much about them on here about their current status.

Bloodhound 03-30-2009 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 587565)
... Not sure if they use them as spares ie RAH style or not.

It has happened that way but not a common practice. I know CAL used to have beef with it because it had our logo/name on it. But now that there's no scheduled competition, I don't know if that has changed.

Bloodhound 03-30-2009 01:39 PM


Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 587567)
I think the issue for the OP has probably been answered, any good news coming out of XJT? Any possibility of recalls for attrition, growth?? Or worse any further furloughs?? Don't hear to much about them on here about their current status.

I try not to pay attention too much - show up/go home routine, but the news is there's IS no news. No growth that I've heard, no recalls either. I'd say we might be slightly overstaffed (according to the company) but no talk of furloughs.

tr disagree 03-30-2009 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by fjetter (Post 587567)
I think the issue for the OP has probably been answered, any good news coming out of XJT? Any possibility of recalls for attrition, growth?? Or worse any further furloughs?? Don't hear to much about them on here about their current status.



No good news to report right now but no bad news. I don't think people are leaving and we have people comming back from leave but no talks of more furloughs.



CAL will allow XJT to use charter a/c to cover CAL flights if there are no other options but 99% of the time we can only use the COEX A/C to cover the CAL flying.

forumname 03-30-2009 02:59 PM


Originally Posted by RadarContact (Post 587566)
Branded is scheduled service

WAS scheduled service.

tangoindia 03-30-2009 03:47 PM

Definitely charter. The other day I saw a " Jetlink" @ MRLB (Liberia, Costa Rica)...i wonder who was flying in it...:confused:

wmuflyboy 03-30-2009 05:57 PM

alright well these were the green EMBs with the ExpressJet logo painted on the side. dont know what two of them were doing in ABE at the same time, i dont think there is anything going on here but whatev, its nice to get close to something that im not gonna be able to touch for a very long time it seems:rolleyes:

ToiletDuck 03-30-2009 06:25 PM


Originally Posted by wmuflyboy (Post 587704)
alright well these were the green EMBs with the ExpressJet logo painted on the side. dont know what two of them were doing in ABE at the same time, i dont think there is anything going on here but whatev, its nice to get close to something that im not gonna be able to touch for a very long time it seems:rolleyes:

I was getting my private when 9/11 hit and I thought the same thing. When I graduate college there was absolutely zero hiring. As if overnight all that changed and airlines were hiring so fast you were wondering what was wrong if you weren't contacted within a week of submitting your resume. It's always gone in cycles. It will again. When it does just have your resume ready and plenty of contacts.

Bloodhound 03-30-2009 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by wmuflyboy (Post 587704)
alright well these were the green EMBs with the ExpressJet logo painted on the side. dont know what two of them were doing in ABE at the same time, i dont think there is anything going on here but whatev, its nice to get close to something that im not gonna be able to touch for a very long time it seems:rolleyes:

That was the branded paint and always has been the charter paint. They got rid of the "xjet.com" on the nacelles. There could be some corporate meeting or odd-ball convention in town - like the Annual Meat Slicer Blade Manufacturers of North America '09.

RadarContact 03-30-2009 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by forumname (Post 587598)
WAS scheduled service.

Ya sorry, wrong tense. I was kinda disappointed though when the branded went away. I was really hoping that would work out for them.

inky13 03-30-2009 08:54 PM


Originally Posted by RadarContact (Post 587741)
Ya sorry, wrong tense. I was kinda disappointed though when the branded went away. I was really hoping that would work out for them.

Indeed, couldn't go wrong with $1 beers! :D

wmuflyboy 03-31-2009 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Bloodhound (Post 587564)
The branded was scheduled service. The charter is on demand. The big contracts are with college teams and NASCAR.


good call. diverted from Teterboro for the NIT tourny. Notre Dame and Baylor.

rlh724 03-31-2009 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by ToiletDuck (Post 587722)
I was getting my private when 9/11 hit and I thought the same thing. When I graduate college there was absolutely zero hiring. As if overnight all that changed and airlines were hiring so fast you were wondering what was wrong if you weren't contacted within a week of submitting your resume. It's always gone in cycles. It will again. When it does just have your resume ready and plenty of contacts.

Amen to that brother, it always has gone in cycles, things WILL pick up again.

Jake Wheeler 03-31-2009 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by RadarContact (Post 587741)
Ya sorry, wrong tense. I was kinda disappointed though when the branded went away. I was really hoping that would work out for them.

Me too. It would erase the stain left by Independence Air and give the rest of us something to think about in the future.

Roper92 03-31-2009 12:12 PM

Right on! I think Southwest has the cheapest at $4. Anyone know of anything cheaper??

XJT branded flying was a great product, but there wasn't enough cash in the bank to let those markets mature. That and the fuel spike made it near impossible to keep it going.

BrandedPilot 03-31-2009 02:13 PM

Bring Branded Back!

bigD 03-31-2009 02:29 PM

Yes, bring branded back.......it was a great operation while it lasted.

ExperimentalAB 03-31-2009 02:34 PM

Here, here :D

dojetdriver 03-31-2009 08:42 PM


Originally Posted by Jake Wheeler (Post 587966)
Me too. It would erase the stain left by Independence Air and give the rest of us something to think about in the future.


The irony is, there's some former I-Air guys at XJT.

Dash8Pilot 03-31-2009 08:52 PM


Originally Posted by Roper92 (Post 587992)
Right on! I think Southwest has the cheapest at $4. Anyone know of anything cheaper??

Horizon serves microbrews for free. :D

tr disagree 04-01-2009 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 588304)
The irony is, there's some former I-Air guys at XJT.


We are everywhere.

JoeyMeatballs 04-01-2009 07:21 AM

There may be some good news on the way

Hunt599 04-01-2009 09:12 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 588484)
There may be some good news on the way


Dont tease.....do tell...or at least PM a former xjt'er hoping to make it back!

dojetdriver 04-01-2009 09:19 AM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 588484)
There may be some good news on the way

"Temporary" news doesn't count.

JoeyMeatballs 04-01-2009 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by Hunt599 (Post 588556)
Dont tease.....do tell...or at least PM a former xjt'er hoping to make it back!

I dont think it will be that good unfortunately.............. i will say the company is not very good at staffing, a lot of people are getting re-assigned and already coverage for APRIL is like -10 everyday

NightIP 04-01-2009 01:24 PM


Originally Posted by SAABaroowski (Post 588684)
I dont think it will be that good unfortunately.............. i will say the company is not very good at staffing, a lot of people are getting re-assigned and already coverage for APRIL is like -10 everyday

Temporary recalls. :D

Bond 04-01-2009 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by dojetdriver (Post 588558)
"Temporary" news doesn't count.

Exactly! Unless the secret news we all know about, is a long term deal, then it's not really that big of a deal.


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