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FDX8891 12-02-2011 04:01 PM

ExpressJet Hiring
 
Anybody have a January class date? I know the 3 in December are completely full.

Just got out of the school house and rumor has it 300-600 new hires for 2012.

Crossing my fingers hoping that the hiring continues!

ryanduveneck 12-02-2011 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by FDX8891 (Post 1095510)
Anybody have a January class date? I know the 3 in December are completely full.

Just got out of the school house and rumor has it 300-600 new hires for 2012.

Crossing my fingers hoping that the hiring continues!

ya, i kno a couple guys who are doin the january classes... and 600 is the number i heard at my interview on 11/2:)

echoaviation 12-02-2011 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by ryanduveneck (Post 1095513)
ya, i kno a couple guys who are doin the january classes... and 600 is the number i heard at my interview on 11/2:)

Sounds about like the number of pilots AE might furlough...

ryanduveneck 12-02-2011 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by echoaviation (Post 1095519)
Sounds about like the number of pilots AE might furlough...

huh buooyyyyyyy...

Banshee365 12-02-2011 06:24 PM


Originally Posted by FDX8891 (Post 1095510)
Anybody have a January class date? I know the 3 in December are completely full.

Just got out of the school house and rumor has it 300-600 new hires for 2012.

Crossing my fingers hoping that the hiring continues!

Personally, I think that is a vastly unrealistic number. Maybe for 2013+ but I would believe it if you cut a zero off the end of that range. We would all hope for hiring numbers like that but without taking gaining airframes I would find it hard to believe any numbers near that for just an increase in block hours across the fleet.

3stripes 12-02-2011 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by Banshee365 (Post 1095605)
Personally, I think that is a vastly unrealistic number. Maybe for 2013+ but I would believe it if you cut a zero off the end of that range. We would all hope for hiring numbers like that but without taking gaining airframes I would find it hard to believe any numbers near that for just an increase in block hours across the fleet.

The 300-600 number is correct for the former XJT side, we just don't know which end of the scale it's going to be at yet. We need to upgrade a large number of FOs next year in order to staff ourselves properly. The projected number of upgrades is currently around 300. This comes straight from our head of pilot recruitment. I wouldn't be too surprised to see an addition number of guys coming from the former ASA side in addition to those who were on furlough from XJT.

FDX8891 12-02-2011 06:44 PM


Originally Posted by Banshee365 (Post 1095605)
Personally, I think that is a vastly unrealistic number. Maybe for 2013+ but I would believe it if you cut a zero off the end of that range. We would all hope for hiring numbers like that but without taking gaining airframes I would find it hard to believe any numbers near that for just an increase in block hours across the fleet.

Yeah I think those numbers are pretty large too.

blastoff 12-02-2011 07:57 PM


Originally Posted by FDX8891 (Post 1095621)
Yeah I think those numbers are pretty large too.

Funny you think that since our hiring was within that range THIS year.:cool:

DENpilot 12-02-2011 11:28 PM


Originally Posted by blastoff (Post 1095652)
Funny you think that since our hiring was within that range THIS year.:cool:

By the end of the year, XJT will have hired 450+ for 2011. :D

I feel fortunate to be part of the first 100 of that.

flyboyblueeyes 12-03-2011 05:20 AM

Dont forget we are getting a new base. Going to need peeps to staff that.

Wingtips 12-03-2011 05:27 AM


Originally Posted by flyboyblueeyes (Post 1095748)
Dont forget we are getting a new base. Going to need peeps to staff that.

MIA and DFW?

PBSG 12-03-2011 06:18 AM


Originally Posted by Wingtips (Post 1095750)
MIA and DFW?

Hopefully IAD and DEN. Best of luck to everyone that applies

IrishNJ 12-03-2011 06:28 AM


Originally Posted by FDX8891 (Post 1095621)
Yeah I think those numbers are pretty large too.

I don't know if you work here or not or what you're basing your opinion on, but they've being hiring like crazy all year, over 450 by year end, and have hardly put a dent in the understaffing that our former management caused.

That, and the fact that people are leaving (they had expected even more but well over 100 captains left not including all the FOs that left for Greener pastures) plus instructors recalled to training center etc.. Plus the new base that had to be staffed, plus another new base (den) next year.

I got it directly from the training management that they are trying for a MINIMUM of 300 but planning on more. The mass cancellations that we had this year CANNOT be repeated ever again! Not to mention the huge cost of 200% pay for everyone for months on end. They're also preparing for expected increase in attrition.

3stripes 12-03-2011 06:48 AM

I have a feeling that those who are saying that all this talk of mass hiring next year is false, are from the ASA side who are yet to experience the total mess that has come about on several occasions this year due to a chronic shortage of crews. I have it on good authority that we are aiming for 300 upgrades and 600 new hires next year, it's just a case of whether the training center can handle those volumes. A DEN base is no longer a case of 'if' but 'when', and the current IAD base on the ASA side may well expand to include the current ERJ operation that is in place and is currently staffed by ORD crews.

This doesn't even take into account the current rumours of something going on with Delta regarding flow through or preferential hiring. I was talking to a guy just the other week who was on his way down to IAH for training. At his interview he had done additional Delta tests and was told that this was necessary due to 'the new flow through program'.

CRJDriver 12-03-2011 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by 3stripes (Post 1095608)
The 300-600 number is correct for the former XJT side, we just don't know which end of the scale it's going to be at yet. We need to upgrade a large number of FOs next year in order to staff ourselves properly. The projected number of upgrades is currently around 300. This comes straight from our head of pilot recruitment. I wouldn't be too surprised to see an addition number of guys coming from the former ASA side in addition to those who were on furlough from XJT.

Any "head of pilot recruitment" will say mass hiring, growth, new airframes, etc. That's what they get paid to do and say.

ryanduveneck 12-03-2011 10:58 AM

gentleman, question for those of u already on the line now... how does pay work during training... do u get the reserve gurantee of 75 hrs @23.05/hr only, or do u also get ur per diem? thanx

erjpilot7 12-03-2011 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by ryanduveneck (Post 1095915)
gentleman, question for those of u already on the line now... how does pay work during training... do u get the reserve gurantee of 75 hrs @23.05/hr only, or do u also get ur per diem? thanx

On the ERJ side of the house, it's a one-time per diem check of about $1400-1500. No guarantee until you pass your initial PC.

stoki 12-03-2011 12:55 PM

What interview dates are people being called for now? What are the closest class dates people are getting?

Also, a poster mentioned lots of FOs have left XJT for greener pastures... if anyone doesn't mind sharing, what are these "greener pastures", for those who know some of these FOs?

newarkblows 12-03-2011 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by stoki (Post 1095967)
What interview dates are people being called for now? What are the closest class dates people are getting?

Also, a poster mentioned lots of FOs have left XJT for greener pastures... if anyone doesn't mind sharing, what are these "greener pastures", for those who know some of these FOs?

Atlas, jetblue, charter ops, ... 5 legs a day, bad pay, and poor treatment make most people reconsider any regional around the two yr mark. If you stay past two then your just a glutton for punishment. I have been here 5 + and still can't figure out why.

stoki 12-03-2011 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by newarkblows (Post 1095973)
Atlas, jetblue, charter ops, ... 5 legs a day, bad pay, and poor treatment make most people reconsider any regional around the two yr mark. If you stay past two then your just a glutton for punishment. I have been here 5 + and still can't figure out why.

And they say XJT is one of the better regionals..

I'm currently at a complete bottom of the barrel regional, not even close to upgrade (if the company was to even survive that long) without many options, and finally in a position where I can make a change, so starting to look around. Want to be close to home so I can drive. Not willing to commute so NY area based "airlines" are the flavor of the day, and I believe EWR is the junior XJT base.

P.S - Jetblue or Atlas has been taking FOs from XJT? Without TPIC?

newarkblows 12-03-2011 02:35 PM


Originally Posted by stoki (Post 1096014)
And they say XJT is one of the better regionals..

I'm currently at a complete bottom of the barrel regional, not even close to upgrade (if the company was to even survive that long) without many options, and finally in a position where I can make a change, so starting to look around. Want to be close to home so I can drive. Not willing to commute so NY area based "airlines" are the flavor of the day, and I believe EWR is the junior XJT base.

P.S - Jetblue or Atlas has been taking FOs from XJT? Without TPIC?

Saying XJT is one of the better regionals is like saying your the smartest kid with a disability. The entire regional airline industry is based on cheap labor with zero leverage to improve our qol. If a regional does improve qol they are immediately replaced with a cheaper alternative.

Ewr and ord are XJT's junior bases right now but it is subject to change. I wouldn't jump ship right now. There is a lot of uncertainty in the regionals and a lot is riding on contract negotiations at the majors. Jetblue only requires an atp. Atlas I don't know about but they hired three guys I knew from the right seat.

MR JT8D 12-03-2011 03:22 PM

Pay in training is 2 checks of 750, no tax taken out. You have to buy your OWN uniform, and you should have 3 Jepp. binders when you come to class. After you pass your checkride, you get on the payroll at 75 hours per month.

Hope this helps.

CANAM 12-03-2011 03:36 PM

I would be much happier to read that a major was hiring 600 pilots this year. For the past 10 years, this industry has grown waaaaaay too fat on the regional side. We need a change.

rightside02 12-03-2011 04:33 PM


I would be much happier to read that a major was hiring 600 pilots this year. For the past 10 years, this industry has grown waaaaaay too fat on the regional side. We need a change.
Pretty much what this guy said .!!!

AxialFlow 12-03-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by CANAM (Post 1096057)
I would be much happier to read that a major was hiring 600 pilots this year. For the past 10 years, this industry has grown waaaaaay too fat on the regional side. We need a change.

...and another one notices the trend...

Floridaflipper 12-04-2011 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by stoki (Post 1095967)
What interview dates are people being called for now? What are the closest class dates people are getting?

Also, a poster mentioned lots of FOs have left XJT for greener pastures... if anyone doesn't mind sharing, what are these "greener pastures", for those who know some of these FOs?

"Greener pastures" doesn't necessarily mean a better flying job. I have heard of a lot who have flat-out left the industry.

Floridaflipper 12-04-2011 05:30 AM


Originally Posted by AxialFlow (Post 1096128)
...and another one notices the trend...

People have been "noticing the trend" for well over ten years now. Problem is we can't do anything about it.

Places that are bottom of the barrel in terms of pay and working conditions still have people lining up and always will.

BelowMins 12-04-2011 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1096053)
Pay in training is 2 checks of 750, no tax taken out. You have to buy your OWN uniform, and you should have 3 Jepp. binders when you come to class. After you pass your checkride, you get on the payroll at 75 hours per month.

Hope this helps.

You'll need a flight case too which you pay for. Living 2 months on $1500 is pretty damn hard.

PSpence 12-04-2011 08:05 PM

What are folks coming aboard ExpressJet with nowadays? The website shows 700/100, while AirlineApps shows 500/50 ... anybody have an idea as to which is getting the recruiting fish to bite on?

Many thanks in advance.

Planespotta 12-04-2011 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by PSpence (Post 1096636)
What are folks coming aboard ExpressJet with nowadays? The website shows 700/100, while AirlineApps shows 500/50 ... anybody have an idea as to which is getting the recruiting fish to bite on?

Many thanks in advance.

Got an interview with 800/80 with an internal rec, we'll see what happens....

Nevets 12-04-2011 09:32 PM



Originally Posted by MR JT8D (Post 1096053)
Pay in training is 2 checks of 750, no tax taken out. You have to buy your OWN uniform, and you should have 3 Jepp. binders when you come to class. After you pass your checkride, you get on the payroll at 75 hours per month.

Hope this helps.

You'll need a flight case too which you pay for. Living 2 months on $1500 is pretty damn hard.
Your hotel is paid for but you'll have a roommate.

ryanduveneck 12-10-2011 05:55 AM

ya, as far as hours goes, it all depends on the totality of ur resume. some guys in my class have way lower than the mins, some have way higher... some have prior 121 wxperience, some dont... they dont have a hard number for hours as long as u have a great resume to back up low time

coryk 12-10-2011 06:48 AM

What was the lowest you've seen?

FSUpilot 12-10-2011 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1099499)
What was the lowest you've seen?

When I was hired back in Jan the lowest in my class was 490 or something. My roommate had 900 TT and 30 ME. Those two guys were Continental interns I think. Ive heard that helps a ton.

hc0fitted 12-10-2011 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1099499)
what was the lowest you've seen?

310tt ....

coryk 12-10-2011 05:06 PM



Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1099499)
what was the lowest you've seen?

310tt ....
That was recently? Must have known someone high up.

BelowMins 12-10-2011 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by hc0fitted (Post 1099827)
310tt ....

***? Really? Must have been an intern but still, damn

hc0fitted 12-11-2011 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by coryk (Post 1099856)
That was recently? Must have known someone high up.

That was back in June. He was not a intern. Rumors were that he had a rec from Brad, but don't know for sure.

SiShane 12-14-2011 07:52 AM

I just put in my app 635 TT, 53 ME....fingers crossed


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