Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
(Post 1204989)
How can you buy a pilot group? Come on, I really want to know!
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Originally Posted by Jetlinker
(Post 1205000)
Newbies make me chuckle.
Hopefully they are open-minded enough to just do what's fair and do it by relative seniority. I've actually met a lot of ASA types on the road and especially in the crew bussed in ATL (I park in their lot) - they are generally nice guys and gals no different than us. Everyone is just trying to protect their interests. Anyway, the SLI won't matter to me as I came to xjet after the merger and will be stapled to the bottom of whatever solution happens. I just prefer it happens fast so I have some hope of bidding to Atlanta so I won't have to commute. That hope keeps me going. Of course, you have to wonder what's going to happen with the Delta TA and some of the huge shifts coming to the industry over the next few years. Like I tell anyone who will listen, the minute it becomes apparent that I'll be stuck in the right seat at a regional for some huge amount of time, I'm gone. This was always a roll of the dice. |
Originally Posted by Kilroy
(Post 1205012)
You would be amazed how this could happen...hang on the next 24 months are going to be a wild ride.
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Originally Posted by drrhythm2
(Post 1205126)
Can you name me a single time a pilot group has been "bought" outside of a bankruptcy deal or proceeding? what's the upside of "buying" a pilot group for a major?
It's gonna be a crazy ride |
Relative seniority favors ASA captains over XJT captains, and favors XJT fo's over ASA fo's. This is how I saw it on a chart done both ways (DOH and relative) after the merger was announced. It's going to be hard to do it one way or the other when either way affects people in the same side differently. ASA captains will be fightingfor relative, XJT captains will want DOH and vice versa for fo's.
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Originally Posted by Kilroy
(Post 1205012)
You would be amazed how this could happen...hang on the next 24 months are going to be a wild ride.
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Originally Posted by spudskier
(Post 1205136)
You're looking to past precedents... for what we're about to experience, there has never been anything like it.In the next three years alone, more people will retire at JUST the legacy carriers than there are pilots at the new combined XJT. Unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures. Not saying that I necessarily believe that any airline will buy another pilot group, but some unorthodox methods will surely be used.
It's gonna be a crazy ride You are right about one thing; it will be a crazy ride. I'm just not sure it will be a good one for all. |
Originally Posted by Truman_Sparks
(Post 1205153)
Relative seniority favors ASA captains over XJT captains, and favors XJT fo's over ASA fo's. This is how I saw it on a chart done both ways (DOH and relative) after the merger was announced. It's going to be hard to do it one way or the other when either way affects people in the same side differently. ASA captains will be fightingfor relative, XJT captains will want DOH and vice versa for fo's.
I think there is going to have to be a quantum change over the next few years. At some point the new expressjet is going to have to get more into larger regional gets than the few at the legacy ASA side. Wonder if the new JCBA will lay the groundwork for that. |
Originally Posted by ASAnotASAP
(Post 1204989)
How can you buy a pilot group? Come on, I really want to know!
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Originally Posted by spudskier
(Post 1205136)
You're looking to past precedents... for what we're about to experience, there has never been anything like it.In the next three years alone, more people will retire at JUST the legacy carriers than there are pilots at the new combined XJT. Unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures. Not saying that I necessarily believe that any airline will buy another pilot group, but some unorthodox methods will surely be used.
It's gonna be a crazy ride |
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