Expressjet cancels TA roadshow!
 

Just got word that after the announcement about the raise for the Skywest pilots today. The Expressjet MEC cancelled their roadshow explaining the concessionary TA.

Enough Is Enough!!!

Update...they are saying that it may now be due to "weather" in ORD.

The water is warm in ORD, jump right in boys. They feared for their life!

Its outrageous that those who represent us are even going around "selling" a concessionary TA to the pilot group. Its so clear who they actually represent-not the pilot group. The words that come to mind: Shameful, unethical, illegal, ALPA,.....

Illegal? You lost me there.

I'm with you. Illegal? :confused:

Like it or not, your elected representatives believe that the negotiating environment is poor and this is the best deal we are likely to see. The deal is concessionary, but our peers at every comparable airline are either already well below our level or are agreeing to massive concessions in exchange for possible career advancement. If we vote this down and Eagle takes further concessions for increased flow to mainline, is there really any chance of making contract gains? The more likely scenario is a worse offer, bankruptcy, or company failure. If you deem those risks worthwhile vs voting in a concessionary TA that is your prerogative. I think I'm ready to take those risks myself, but I wouldn't be too harsh on the union for letting all of us make that call together vs having 18 people decide the fate of 4,600.

The sky is falling! You should run for MEC rep!

All of those things could happen whether we vote yes or no. Our choice is whether we choose to participate in this race to the bottom that Roger Cohen and Lee Moak have put us all in. I refuse to, and I think we'll see in a few days that mine is a majority opinion.

I really couldn't care less what other regional airlines are doing. All of them taking concessions are in mergers or a bankruptcy. We're owned by SkyWest Inc, the largest and most profitable regional. They work for the two most profitable mainline carriers. They just found change in their pockets to give the SkyWest pilots a better agreement, and they can do the same for us. If they don't they can watch their stock and personal wealth tank. I refuse to take cuts for nothing.

Not picking a fight here, but Inc is profitable and your subsidiary is not. Taking cuts isn't "for nothing".

Up until this point the only answer I've heard is "we were profitable until SkyWest bought us and agreed to a crap CPA with UA". Maybe so. But this doesn't change the fact the business is loosing money! I guess they could renegotiate with UA. Or you could make a few efficiency changes (not pay cuts) and live to fight to the next CPA.

You must live in some podunk town usa or depend on your husband/wife for a livable wage. Because my capped out fo pay is barely keeping me aflaot.

I am so sick and tired people defending taking concessions. We need to be getting 10 to 30 % raises to keep up with inflation.

Lol. You're funny. How much does SkyWest charge ExpressJet for IT services? Payroll? Accounting? More than the market rate. They are conveniently moving money around to make us look unprofitable.

ExpressJet being 60% of Inc's operation and as unprofitable as they claim, yet Inc still raking in money doesn't pass the smell test. And the SEC should investigate it.

We will never be as efficient as Skywest and don't you think it is interesting that they are "willing" to give us everything Skywest has but not the one list? If they give us the one list, there goes the whipsaw. Even if we vote this TA in, guess what will happen next year and every other to follow. They will tell us we weren't competitive enough to get those CPA's.

I loved it when on the union call, one of the MEC guys (forget who), stated that if the past is a precedent of what we can accomplish with the company that he thinks that it is worth standing behind them. His example of it was getting the CR7's from Horizon. To me, if the past is a precedent then look at all the grievances that had been filed from the L-ASA contract since it was implemented. If a company is worthy of standing behind, then they should first and foremost honor the contract which they signed. It's time to recall the ASA MEC guys.

When is voting done?

Tomorrow @ 10 am.

any early predictions on pass/fail?

Fail.....65% no - 35% yes

What does "L" mean when put before an airline? As in L-ASA or L-AE.

Does it mean former?

Btw, Congrats DMB on B6

It seems to me that it is going to fail hence the timing of the Skywest deal and a few other things. Hopefully I am not proven wrong.

+1. I take casting a yes vote as a personal affront. Capped out FO pay, no non-education debt, not living large by any stretch of the imagination, yet still eating ramen and picking up every scrap of open time I can just to try to balance the budget each month.

This TA would be a personal financial disaster, and people like JoeMerchant make me sick every time I read their stupid rationalizations. Maybe if you had to worry about feeding yourself Joe you'd actually look out for your fellow pilots and vote no. So much for the younger guys being the "ME ME ME" generation... it's guys like Joe, and union guys like EF who keep their 6 hours and get an extra CDO every week. Disgusting.

Exactly thank you. We will never truly know unless in bankruptcy when they would have to reveal the real books and we are nowhere near bankrupt. People need to stop bending over