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Pickle 04-26-2019 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2809103)
Without the 1k you wont get a call. Its a hard min. No one in the last at least 6 years has gotten a call without it. Wont change soon either just ask the CP. Plenty of apps who have it.

Not to be pedantic, but it isn’t a hard requirement. It’s listed as “preferred”. But I’m sure we can agree that preferred isn’t merely preferred.

manolo1492 04-29-2019 06:56 AM

*All timelines related to Personal or Professional Endorsements are reset.

^ ^ ^ Does that mean that 12 and 24 month waiting periods for giving another endorsement were reset for everyone?

DirtyPurple 05-01-2019 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by manolo1492 (Post 2810824)
*All timelines related to Personal or Professional Endorsements are reset.

^ ^ ^ Does that mean that 12 and 24 month waiting periods for giving another endorsement were reset for everyone?

Yep...that's what it means.

123456 05-01-2019 12:59 PM


Originally Posted by DirtyPurple (Post 2812387)
Yep...that's what it means.

I was told it means that any applicant that had a PE on file with the old way was now reset (as in they lost their PE) and the employee must fill out a new PE under the new system which now has the updated timelines of 24 months, etc. versus the old 10 year program which in essence, resets everybody's clock, the applicant and the employee.

Saabflyer 05-03-2019 03:22 PM

Does anyone have a rough estimate on how long before a candidate could get invited after an endorsement is given? I want to make sure I am fully prepared and don’t want to get caught off guard with the endorsement being put in prematurely.

Albief15 05-04-2019 03:04 AM


Originally Posted by Saabflyer (Post 2813813)
Does anyone have a rough estimate on how long before a candidate could get invited after an endorsement is given? I want to make sure I am fully prepared and don’t want to get caught off guard with the endorsement being put in prematurely.

Here's a little life advice. When you apply to an airline, EXPECT to get called and be ready. I wrote a piece called "avoiding square corners" on this very subject. This week I was contacted by a guy who has corresponded with me informally for over 2 years about airlines, GA, etc. I thought he had already gotten his ducks in a row (prep, logbooks, etc). He texted me this week after he got a "fix it" email, asking "is this good? Will I get called?" Before I could even reply, his next text was "hey...they are calling me in...."

Now--he wants to do an interview prep course. He needs to make complex travel arrangements and get time off from work. He needs to tighten up his logbook and paperwork. I expect he also needs to get a suit, as I doubt he's done that either.

That's a lot of crap to work though in 2-3 weeks.

Use this rule: IF I APPLY, I EXCECT TO BE CALLED..... Get your stuff ready now. If it sits in the closet 3, 6, 12, 18 months.....so what. All you have done is make sure you'll be less of a stress grenade when the email/phone call finally arrives. Conversely, if you don't prepare you may find yourself in a miserable thrash.

Murphy also says when it rains, it pours. I see a lot of pilots getting 2-3 interviews in a short period. Even if you don't get called from your first choice, be ready for option B and C as well if they call first.

So--get your stuff ready. Can you get it done in a month? Then apply ASAP. Scrub the logs, get the suit, do a prep course (if you want) and do some test study. Make the process systematic and not a rush. Then you will be ready whenever the opportunity finally does show up...

2BEER 05-05-2019 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Albief15 (Post 2814005)
Here's a little life advice. When you apply to an airline, EXPECT to get called and be ready. I wrote a piece called "avoiding square corners" on this very subject. This week I was contacted by a guy who has corresponded with me informally for over 2 years about airlines, GA, etc. I thought he had already gotten his ducks in a row (prep, logbooks, etc). He texted me this week after he got a "fix it" email, asking "is this good? Will I get called?" Before I could even reply, his next text was "hey...they are calling me in...."

Now--he wants to do an interview prep course. He needs to make complex travel arrangements and get time off from work. He needs to tighten up his logbook and paperwork. I expect he also needs to get a suit, as I doubt he's done that either.

That's a lot of crap to work though in 2-3 weeks.

Use this rule: IF I APPLY, I EXCECT TO BE CALLED..... Get your stuff ready now. If it sits in the closet 3, 6, 12, 18 months.....so what. All you have done is make sure you'll be less of a stress grenade when the email/phone call finally arrives. Conversely, if you don't prepare you may find yourself in a miserable thrash.

Murphy also says when it rains, it pours. I see a lot of pilots getting 2-3 interviews in a short period. Even if you don't get called from your first choice, be ready for option B and C as well if they call first.

So--get your stuff ready. Can you get it done in a month? Then apply ASAP. Scrub the logs, get the suit, do a prep course (if you want) and do some test study. Make the process systematic and not a rush. Then you will be ready whenever the opportunity finally does show up...

Coming from personal experience I have to say this is solid advice. Do not make the mistake of underestimating the amount time and effort it takes to prepare for an interview. I put off the bulk of my prep until after the interview offer and I was really lucky that they offered an interview slot just over a month out. They offered earlier dates but I realized I wasn't 100% prepared and would rather take the small hit in seniority than not get on the list at all. I interviewed successfully but it was a stressful month leading up to the big day(s). That being said, prep early and reduce your stress levels come interview time.

*I also had the advantage of having several Pt. 91 corporate/HNWI interviews in the 18 months or so prior to this one. I learned a lot of what not do and say during that period, so between the recent lessons learned and solid prep I went in to the interview feeling confident and ready.

Suthernair 08-14-2019 01:36 PM


Originally Posted by Noworkallplay (Post 2809103)
Without the 1k you wont get a call. Its a hard min. No one in the last at least 6 years has gotten a call without it. Wont change soon either just ask the CP. Plenty of apps who have it.


Could you shed a little more light on this area for me?

I have in excess of 1000 TPIC, however not all of it is as captain. What I mean to say is that I have also logged as PIC, flight time as sole manipulator of the controls in jets that I’m typed and current while operating under FAR Part 91. My understanding of the regs is that this is legal PIC time, however I understand that it is not as the captain on record for that flight. So, the question I have is will that time be accepted for the 1000 TPIC requirement? I know that there has always been some contention about this subject in the past but I’m curious if the trend will change in light of the increased hiring of late and for hiring into the future.

I’m 43 years old and a current B767 FO operating express freight flights with over 20 years as a professional pilot. Seventeen and a half of those years of experience were a mix of Part 135 charter/air ambulance work and Part 91 corporate work in various business jets. I’ve only, in the past 3 years, been in the 121 airline world, so I’m still learning how this facet of aviation works. I would very much like the opportunity to work for FedEx. I exceed all of the listed requirements for a pilot position at FedEx with the possible exception of the 1000 TPIC requirement. I have recently heard that FedEx May be lowering that requirement to 500 TPIC. Any validity to that rumor?

Thanks in advance for all comments and information on this.

Adlerdriver 08-14-2019 01:53 PM

First of all - the 1000 PIC is now "preferred". I have no idea if that means they have made a practice of actually hiring pilots with less than 1000 PIC.


Originally Posted by Suthernair (Post 2870231)
What I mean to say is that I have also logged as PIC, flight time as sole manipulator of the controls in jets that I’m typed and current while operating under FAR Part 91. My understanding of the regs is that this is legal PIC time, however I understand that it is not as the captain on record for that flight. So, the question I have is will that time be accepted for the 1000 TPIC requirement?

Do you have access to the careers section of the fedex website? https://careers.fedex.com/pilot-minimum-qualifications

There is no contention of what hours actually qualify as PIC. Sole-manipulator hours do not. So getting legalistic with the FAR definition of PIC time has absolutely nothing to do with what FedEx has decided they will accept as PIC time for whatever published or internal minimums they have decided they'll accept.

FXLAX 08-15-2019 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by Adlerdriver (Post 2870239)



There is no contention of what hours actually qualify as PIC. Sole-manipulator hours do not. So getting legalistic with the FAR definition of PIC time has absolutely nothing to do with what FedEx has decided they will accept as PIC time for whatever published or internal minimums they have decided they'll accept.


I think he is just asking if fedex accepts the FAR Part 61 definition of PIC or do they only count the FAR Part 1 definition of PIC. I believe the l latter is true.


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