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Old 08-06-2017, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kme9418 View Post
I have had a PE since March and no call yet. All the typical competitive qualifications--current/qualified part 121 747 guy with mil background. Anyone else in that boat?
No 747 but all the same besides that. Not a peep.
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by kme9418 View Post
I have had a PE since March and no call yet. All the typical competitive qualifications--current/qualified part 121 747 guy with mil background. Anyone else in that boat?
Same boat.

No MIL, but 2000 hours 747, former regional captain, now a regional captain again, PE, advanced degree, lots of extras.... nothing.
Hopeful with every passing day.
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Old 08-07-2017, 03:22 AM
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The candidate I submitted an endorsement for was recently emailed with an interview offer. This candidate did have two PEs however. Good luck everyone!
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Old 08-12-2017, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PotatoChip View Post
Same boat.

No MIL, but 2000 hours 747, former regional captain, now a regional captain again, PE, advanced degree, lots of extras.... nothing.
Hopeful with every passing day.
Two PEs here. 3100 TT. 1100 KC-135 PIC/IP. Attended career fair. Heard nothing thus far.
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Old 12-31-2018, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by GuardBummer View Post
Two PEs here. 3100 TT. 1100 KC-135 PIC/IP. Attended career fair. Heard nothing thus far.
Any updates on whether or not the PE program is effective and working? I heard of a guy that had two and didn’t get a call until 6 months after he started at UPS despite having his app in for years having two 10yr reccs. Are you guys happy with this program as a pilot group? If not, what can be done?
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Old 12-31-2018, 09:33 AM
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I don’t have any confidence in the PE. Once every ten years and it essentially means nothing imo.

I have endorsed a top notch candidate with all of the qualifications. A military aviator of the year....tons of Boeing experience. Walked his stuff in to CP office. Absolute crickets.

I am beginning to believe that the single biggest reason for the PE is to get pilots out of the process. Don’t bother us more than once every ten years....and even when you do it won’t make much difference.

I could continue on....I realize it has significance in that every bit helps when you are trying to get in....but it is FAR from a golden ticket that can be used once every ten years.

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Old 01-01-2019, 07:17 AM
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The person I endorsed got an invite 4 months after my probation ended, so I’d like to think it works. He’s the typical 12+ year regional pilot with no extra boxes checked, so who knows what the formula is.
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Old 01-01-2019, 08:01 AM
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What we really need to find out is: can a PE actually HARM a candidate's chances?

If the company has a defined ratio of PE versus non-PE candidates that they interview, then it is quite possible that a candidate's chances are HARMED by a PE.

I am appalled at this process. We built the largest cargo airline in the world by doing the exact opposite of what we are doing now. We inherited a bunch of attorneys when Northwest got bought (so I hear) and they are helping us recreate the insanely bad employer/employee relations of that former company.
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Old 01-01-2019, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Huck View Post
What we really need to find out is: can a PE actually HARM a candidate's chances?

If the company has a defined ratio of PE versus non-PE candidates that they interview, then it is quite possible that a candidate's chances are HARMED by a PE.

I am appalled at this process. We built the largest cargo airline in the world by doing the exact opposite of what we are doing now. We inherited a bunch of attorneys when Northwest got bought (so I hear) and they are helping us recreate the insanely bad employer/employee relations of that former company.
From what I understand about the process the answer is no. A PE candidate is in 2 application piles. The PE and general application pile. They can be selected from either one.

PE board only meets once a quarter, it is not continuous like the general application pile.

If you have given a PE, have you walked into your Fleet Captain's office and discussed why your guy/gal would be a good fit? Are they competitive? Anything missing on their application? Discussed why they did not receive an invite? ETC....
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At the pizza meeting on Jan 9th. The new chief pilot said he is going to try and change how much endorsements count.
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