StarClipper

[QUOTE=Pakagecheck;2337880]FedEx doesn't have any 2yr guy seating in the left seat as we speak. However as someone else mentioned, just go where you'll be happy. All these comparisons are apples to oranges. The Pax carriers don't carry hazmat so, the cargo guy earn every extra penny or day off the get. The list go on and on and on

Rightseatpro

[QUOTE=StarClipper;2337886]Ah, yes they do. A handful of guys on probation (year one) were awarded CA in the 757. They will be going to training this year, and I'm pretty sure they're drawing captains pay right now.

Tuck

Yeah that chart really emphasizes the narrow body pay. I'm an 11 year guy at Fedex and I could hold widebody captain now - guys jr to me are already in training for it. Any pax carriers have that? I think it's reasonable to say that every UAL guy hired today will be able to hold narrowbody captain in 10 years but virtually zero chance of holding widebody captain. I'd say new hire Fedex guys today will almost certainly be able to hold widebody captain in 8-9 years max and that's without any growth.

Pakagecheck

RSP,
Thanks for the back up but you made it look like I posted that.

StarClipper,
Ok, so 1 guy at Delta..... my only point, at purple, the majority of the people will be on the wide body the majority of their career(or even all). At Delta, just replace wide with narrow. Almost 25% of the right seat of the 777 have people hired within the last 1 1/2 years.

You don't think people carriers have hazmat? Pretty sure every seat is filled with a live petri dish!

Barnstormer

Remember seeing a chart that said about the same thing for United in 1999. How did that work out?

StarClipper

[QUOTE=Rightseatpro;2337914]They were award but yet to be trained, and may not be trained for years so stop selling that. As previously mentioned as long as we are all happy with the company we work for who cares what other think

Pakagecheck

He wasn't selling that, just responding to your "Delta 2 yr captain" comment which is such a small percentage, and the pilots that have been awarded the 757 do have training dates, yes it is a year from now so I guess our guys will be on property over 3 years before making 75 captain pay.... oh the horror. And for the record, there will be plenty of wide body FOs that will make more money in the right seat of a wide body than in the left seat of the 75.

The question was about career earnings and a referenced report shows a narrow body look at things, I was just pointing out a FACT about our system form. IF you don't think that plays a factor in career earnings, you are sadly mistaken. This was stated to make the comparison apples to apples. This wasn't brought up because we give a flying crap what others think.

123456789

Whoever hires you will definitely pay you more

Baja

Years ago, a "study" was done by FedEx management to do what this paper is supposed to do. That is, predict a career long income. But FedEx paid the people doing the study and they appeared to define the result in advance given the manner in which the presentation was made. The pilots were in contract negotiations which is why FDX bought the study. What does that mean?

Much of a FedEx pilot's pay is not found in the hourly pay rate. It's in the extra pay received because of various clauses within the contract. Studies typically don't touch this sort of pay enhancement. And even if they did, the assumptions would require a crystal ball.

Bottom line is that you cannot always make a true assessment by simply using hourly pay rates. It's a good start but that's where the lazy person will stop. It takes research to dig deeper into a carrier's pilot contract to determine a realistic career income.

fly2ski

22 years at FDX, average less than 350 hours a year block time.. Started getting paid for wide body Captain at year 8, passover pay. Have 36 days a year of vacation, many weekend layovers, 36-48 hours, in my hometown. Still have a pension plan that will pay 130K a year. Never walked the streets. No hat, and best of all, no terminal bag drag!!