Do not pay alpa assesment!!!
 

Let's send a clear message to alpa. Do you remember when we hit the button to stop pbs?

Let's send that same message to alpa now.
Let's not pay the assesment. Let them put us in bad standing. It's not like we're voting on another contract any time soon. Remember they sold us out by signing a 6 year deal? Remember they sold us out over passover pay? Remember they sold us out over our a fund? Remember they sold us out over our b fund increase? Remember best we can get? Remember buy up plan increase price (because of aca?)? Remember the lay flat seats will be ok? Remember "this puts us highest paid"? Remember our alpa spent frivolously? Remember how the bonus was suppose to be paid 55/40 then 5%? Well where is our 5%? Now rumors say we won't get 5%? Is this another shady thing our alpa is doing to us?


So it's been about 1.5 years since our signing date and we still haven't gotten our bonus but now alpa has messed up accounting and asking for more money to be paid Asap. Well I say let's push the button and not pay until we get our 5%!!! If we don't get the 5% let fdx alpa pay the shortage. It's time to take a stand. Let's not pay, put us in bad standing. What do we have to lose.

Well it's gotta be on the map..
 

Davenport, I mean you say it's 22 miles away.

I owe $450+. Check will be in the mail as soon as I get the bill.:o

Let's see:
6 year deal, yep I knew it was a 6 year deal when I voted.

Passover Pay, yep, I knew passover pay would change to SDP once we actually gain control over when we go through ITU training. Looking forward to that one actually, hate being at the whims of the whipsaw training letter-makes it tough to plan.

A fund (pretty sure you mean the A Plan), yep, I knew there were no changes to the "A fund" when I voted. Knew that my NC claimed the improving the "A fund" was something mgt wasn't willing to consider. (As an aside, that's something that sure seems prevalent amongst other Fortune 500 companies)

B fund increase (again, think you mean the B plan). I foolishly thought the "B fund" increased after CBA 2015 passed. Oh wait, it did. So, not sure what you mean here. Did they sell us out by not trading away the "A Fund" for a 15% "B Fund"? But either way, I knew about it prior to voting.

Best we can get? Pretty sure 100% of every negotiating committee at every airline brings a TA to Union Leadership when they think they've reached a Best We Can get (it's a trade off between where we are and how long it would take to dramatically improve where we are. ie a 10% raise now is better than a 13% raise in 2 years)

Buy Up plan increase. In case you missed it, Buy Up plan was increasing prior to the TA. The annual increase was limited, but not capped. And we had no info on actual cost. Now our costs are set at a % of the cost, and we get to look at the books. Pilot Cost Share goes to 20% in 2019.

Lie Flat Seats. Currently being grieved. So, results pending.

Highest paid. Didn't think that meant forever. Thought that was the whole point of pattern bargaining.

ALPA Spent frivolously. Various events sure look frivolous from a distance. The Zoo family days, BWW, a whole slew of things I just don't get to play in as a commuter. But, as a commuter, I don't tend to work a whole bunch of extra days and I really need the folks in domicile to "step up" and "give up" the bonus bucks of draft to put pressure on the company.
And that was then, this is now. Aren't we supposed to keep track of our Union, and if we don't like where it's heading, communicate that to our reps so they change course?

5% bonus. The date of that payout was up in the air pending various issues. The fact that it's still pending isn't a secret and the why's and the when's and the we hope's have been part and parcel of many of our Union's communications over the past few months. I personally expect to get less than 5%. I expect that the 75 FOs who the company has hosed by not paying them passover (and are currently hosing by shifting the training letter around pretty dramatically) are going to get greater than the 5% of their NB Bonus payments to compensate for the fact that they should've gotten WB $$ for the 55/40.
That the Mil Leave folks who should've gotten Capt $$ or WB FO $$ for the 55/40 will get more than the 5% their initial payments were based on.

ALPA messed up accounting. Guess this is the one and only time people will think FedEx Mgt has involved ALPA programmers in, well, anything.
AND, unless I missed something, Union Dues were paid at something less than 100% by folks who got an extra check. Isn't it at least somewhat incumbent upon us to pay at least a little attention to the deductions in our paychecks. Maybe wondering, hmm, that's odd. I sold 7 days of vacation back but my Union dues were the same as a normal month.

Bad Standing, what do we have to lose? Absolutely nothing if you live in Domicile, other than the respect of every other dues paying ALPA member out there. The RJ guys for example, thinking they probably pay a bit more attention to the deductions in their paychecks

A man pays his debts. - Johnny Soprano

Perfect reply Kronon +1

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I say we let 11man ***** all that he wants. I'd be willing to bet that when he needs ALPA that he comes running back begging for our help, weeping and whining and promising to pay all of his assessments and dues.

Let's treat him like the non (paying) member that he is ...


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What do you have to loose? How about your job. I believe the 2006 contract set termination procedures for anyone who didn't maintain standing after ratification if you weren't already a non-member. Anyone considering this might want to contact ALPA before making a rash decision.

I just need to know they're going to recoup every cent from the retirees!

I remember the button. They had to pull it down when it had more pushes than we had members. :eek:

Let us know how the Termination Hearing goes. (I wonder how many Termination Hearings they can conduct in a day.)



Should we be surprised that FedEx IT screwed up a simple programming project? Wait. Don't answer until Open Time Follies begin tonight.


What makes me ANGRY, though, is that my union knew there was a problem months ago, did not tell me, and I had to hear about it from The Company! UN-ACCEPTABLE! We deserved an e-mail from the Secretary-Treasurer within days, maybe weeks at most, of discovering the discrepancy, not hours AFTER The Company alerted us to the problem. :mad:






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I think it is time to look at our other options.

Really? Like what? Where are YOU going to look? This was a company mistake. I agree with Tony that we should have been informed by our union, but it isn't like any of you are being falsely charged for dues on purpose. Our union is what WE make it. How about instead of crapping all over the union, some of you actually step up and contribute.... or at least participate! It's easy to arm chair quarterback every single thing that goes on but never get involved. Case in point, look at voting at something other than the contract. How many have actually attended a meeting? AYFKM! Now WE should look at other options.... GMAFB. So, open up that dusty wallet, shed a tear any pay what you owe.

+1 !

and, it is not an "Assessment". It is a reconciliation for a company programming screw-up, and the trolls come out against ALPA. I'm ****ed too about the dues reconciliation, just wish better comm for the MEC prior to the company.

I got my new ALPA lanyard in the mail today. Worth every penny I had to pay for my assessment:rolleyes:

WARNING: THREAD DRIFT AHEAD


Dues, not assessment. Or, for those who timed it right, a small retirement bonus. :o

About the lanyard ...

Nice lanyard, not cheap by any standard. All the bells and whistles, custom position printing on both sides, buckle on the bottom, breakaway on the top, union "bug" well-hidden from view. :rolleyes:

Ostensibly, the design was motivated by the recent experience where pilots found themselves without their cell phones, and all the phone numbers stored in them. I double-checked the package which contained the lanyard, and I have not found a cell phone included. Apparently, the lanyard only addresses the issue of phone numbers. Had the pilots been wearing this lanyard, they would still be without their phones.

But, if they were wearing the "In Case of Accident/Incident" ID backers, the pilots would have had numbers for the ALPA Worldwide Accident/Incident Hotline and for the FedEx ALPA MEC Office. Sure, they wouldn't have the ASAP Hotline or DG Hotline numbers, but I think they might have had some time before those numbers were needed.

It seems to this penny-pincher that an updated ID backer with a few additional numbers would have been a more cost-effective way to provide phone numbers, and ID backers can be used with any and all lanyards, or even no lanyards at all. Even pilots wearing lanyards to support the Marine Corps or a non-SEC university [4th image not supported by APC's choice of vBulletin settings, so imagine a <wink> emoticon here to indicate teasing] can attach the ID backer between their Known Crewmember tag and The Company's Workplace Violence Prevention / Active Threat Event card.

So, as I said above, ostensibly ... This makes me wonder what the real motivation was for spending a bunch of money, by my estimation upwards of $15,000 conservatively, for fancy new lanyards when ALPA National provides the standard black lanyards for free. (That number is just for the lanyards; packaging and mailing probably cost as much.)

Are we looking for something to closely resemble (compete with) the lanyards with airplanes printed on one side (continuous printing, by the way, which is cheaper) and FLIGHT OPERATIONS printed on the other side? Should we be looking for free pizza and soft drinks to go with these?


I don't feel a need to blend in with those, so I'm thinking I'll stick with the black ALPA lanyard for now. Or, if it's not good enough, maybe it's time for my Tennessee lanyard. [another <wink> emoticon here]

Oh, and I'm keeping my cellphone in my pocket. It has all the numbers.


And maybe someday we'll see the ALPA logo on the marketing material for the FedEx St. Jude's PILOT car build.






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Gotta agree with you Tony. We don't need new lanyards.

+2.
Almost as if they read this site, ALPA sends an email titled "Stewards of your Dues"...

"Our Pilots Place Their Trust In Us": Conference Trains Stewards of Your Dues

Bet that cost more than he paltry sum for the lanyards.
Cheers.

Methinks someone is anti-union.....
:mad:

FU!

Please sign your name.

Eric Popper
737 UAL

First post? And it's not even on"your" board! Nice!:rolleyes: