Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Cargo > FedEx
new clean sheet Cessna 408 twin for Fedex >

new clean sheet Cessna 408 twin for Fedex

Notices

new clean sheet Cessna 408 twin for Fedex

Old 11-28-2017, 02:08 PM
  #1  
Gets Weekends Off
Thread Starter
 
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 115
Default new clean sheet Cessna 408 twin for Fedex

Cessna SkyCourier

Textron Aviation took the wraps off a new utility twin aircraft that will become the largest in its growing in-production turboprop lineup. At the same time, the manufacturer announced its first customer, FedEx Express, with an order for up to 100 in hand. A long-time customer of Textron Aviation’s Cessna Caravan, FedEx yesterday formally signed a contract for 50 cargo variants of the new Cessna SkyCourier 408 and options for up to 50 more. Including options, the order carries a potential value of up to $550 million, based on the $5.5 million list price.

Plans call for delivery of the aircraft to begin to FedEx in 2020 and continue at a pace of one per month over more than a four-year period for the firm orders. The SkyCouriers will help FedEx replenish its fleet of existing turboprops, including some older Caravans and ATRs.

While building on the heritage of the Caravan, the new high-wing SkyCourier is a new design, said Textron Aviation. “The aircraft will fulfill a gap in this market segment with its superior performance and low operating costs in combination with the cabin flexibility, payload capability and efficiency only a clean-sheet design can offer,” said Textron Aviation president and CEO Scott Ernest.

The SkyCourier is designed as a “workhorse,” added Scott Donnelly, chairman and CEO of Textron Aviation parent company Textron. “No one is looking for fancy here...It needs to have reliability, durability. This is all about utility and our ability to get to market quickly with an economic solution, both in terms of acquisition and what it would cost to operate.”

The aircraft will be equipped with proven components already in production, such as the -65 variant of Pratt & Whitney Canada’s PT6A turboprop engines and Garmin G1000 avionics, and will be built from traditional aluminum materials. “We tried to keep the airplane remarkably simple so it has the highest possible dispatch reliability construction,” said Brad Thress, senior vice president, engineering for Textron Aviation.

Thress said the innovation surrounding the design involves its ability to accommodate heavy cargo demands. Key features include a large, 87-inch cargo door and a flat floor; a nearly 70-inch almost “square” tall and wide cabin that can accommodate up to three LD3 shipping containers; and a maximum payload of 6,000 pounds. In addition, the aircraft will be designed for single-point pressure refueling to speed turnaround time.

FedEx, which has operated Caravans for more than 30 years, had worked with Cessna over the past seven months, Thress said, “to co-develop this product into what it needs to be to be successful in its service. The innovation is supporting their logistics, so they can load and unload the airplane quickly.”

“FedEx Express has had a great relationship with Textron Aviation over the years, and this new, advanced aircraft will play a key role in our feeder aircraft modernization strategy,” said David Cunningham, president and CEO of FedEx Express.

The aircraft, which also can be laid out in a 19-passenger configuration, will be capable of flying up to 900 nm and as fast as 200 ktas. The passenger variant will include crew and passenger doors, along with large cabin windows.

“We obviously do a fair amount of activity with the Caravan in the passenger version…There’s always been additional demand for a larger passenger carrier aircraft,” said Ernest, adding the demand is worldwide, but especially in developing nations.

But beyond FedEx, Textron Aviation also sees other opportunities in a growing cargo market, as well as for special missions.

The company had contemplated on and off for years a larger version of the Caravan, Donnelly added. “This is a logical thing for us to do. We have a great track record with the Caravan. It’s a logical place for us to be.”

Plans call for wind tunnel tests to begin in February, with test articles starting “to flow” later in 2018 as the program heads toward first flight in 2019. The non-pressurized, fixed-gear airplane will be certified to Part 23 standards. Ernest said the company opted for the venerable PT6A platform—rather than the GE ATP that is powering the company’s all-new Cessna Denali—because of the timing of the program and availability of the engine.
geosync is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 02:43 PM
  #2  
Gets Weekends Off
 
MaydayMark's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2006
Position: MD-11 Captain
Posts: 4,304
Default

Looks like a cool airplane ...

Do we any sort of scope language about how big feeder aircraft can get? Could they fly Electras, re-engined 727's, 737's?

If I were a low time young pilot trying to build time this looks like a nice way to do that. I wonder what new construction ATR's cost?

MM

MaydayMark is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 02:54 PM
  #3  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jul 2006
Position: 767 Cap
Posts: 1,306
Default

Originally Posted by MaydayMark View Post
Looks like a cool airplane ...

Do we any sort of scope language about how big feeder aircraft can get? Could they fly Electras, re-engined 727's, 737's?

If I were a low time young pilot trying to build time this looks like a nice way to do that. I wonder what new construction ATR's cost?

MM

60000 lb MTOGW is mentioned several times in Section 1 of the CBA as limit before flying must be performed by pilots on our Seniority List.
fdx727pilot is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 04:36 PM
  #4  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Crewmember
Posts: 1,368
Default

I hope its wing sheds ice better than a C-208.
Nightflyer is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 05:56 PM
  #5  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2015
Position: Downward Dog
Posts: 1,877
Default

I don’t really see the point of a clean sheet plane when I’m sure a wing spar redesign of a different Textron airplane (1900d) would be way cheaper, known product and a Beech.
Same price point.

What am I missing.
WesternSkies is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 06:31 PM
  #6  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Posts: 711
Default

Originally Posted by WesternSkies View Post
I don’t really see the point of a clean sheet plane when I’m sure a wing spar redesign of a different Textron airplane (1900d) would be way cheaper, known product and a Beech.
Same price point.

What am I missing.
It can handle 3 cans. Doesn't need to be bulk loaded. That's a BIG deal.
Raptor is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 06:34 PM
  #7  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Lantis 838 k-loader/Freightliner FL70
Posts: 133
Default

Originally Posted by WesternSkies View Post
I don’t really see the point of a clean sheet plane when I’m sure a wing spar redesign of a different Textron airplane (1900d) would be way cheaper, known product and a Beech.
Same price point.

What am I missing.
Is there a 1900 that can carry LD3's? Even with a complete redesign?
Flying Low is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 07:12 PM
  #8  
Line Holder
 
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 73
Default

Will this replace or be competitive against sd3's?
Liberty Pilot is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 07:55 PM
  #9  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Lantis 838 k-loader/Freightliner FL70
Posts: 133
Default

Originally Posted by Raptor View Post
It can handle 3 cans. Doesn't need to be bulk loaded. That's a BIG deal.
Yep. BFD.

Big Flying Deal.
Flying Low is offline  
Old 11-28-2017, 08:48 PM
  #10  
Line Holder
 
timeless's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Posts: 86
Default

Originally Posted by Liberty Pilot View Post
Will this replace or be competitive against sd3's?
SD3-30, yes. SD3-60, no.
timeless is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
SkyStormer6
Hiring News
10
06-04-2010 05:28 PM
joel payne
Hangar Talk
10
12-07-2007 05:36 PM
Cynthia Clough
Cargo
2
05-16-2006 05:36 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Thread Tools
Search this Thread
Your Privacy Choices