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Old 07-05-2018, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
100% participation please (at least from APCers).
Done... I don’t think they are gonna like it..
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Old 07-05-2018, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by FrankTheTank View Post
Done... I don’t think they are gonna like it..
Mine either for sure. MS word character count was very helpful in maximizing my responses.
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Old 07-05-2018, 04:28 PM
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36 months since it began, 49 various education and communications since then. Think your "glaringly obvious by the lack of complete information...." is not even close to reality. Opinions don't make them facts.

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My post was 4+ months ago and the second on this thread which has been viewed 8000+ times. You are the only one to disagree and refute my post. Not to get in it with you but volume doesn’t overcome lack of quality. They aren’t answering all the questions. Answers are often incomplete, deceptive (intentionally?), or “that has to be negotiated.” After reading all the comms, watching all the videos, talking to every pilot I can to discuss the VBP, and an hour long phone conversation with my block rep where he agreed that, for me, the worst case VBP Plan was well short of the existing A plan...I stand by my post.
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Old 07-05-2018, 05:45 PM
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I wasn’t selected for the phone survey, but I did complete my online survey. I’d encourage everyone take it no matter your viewpoint. It only takes a few minutes (longer if you provide additional feedback). It really is too important of a subject to not give the union your opinion.

Obviously, I am a “h### no” voter (and I do believe it will come to a vote).

I really can’t stand the hard sell and the time and money we’ve wasted on this POS. They are too personally invested to not see this thing through. My guess is that it’ll come to a vote and pass around 55-45.
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Old 07-05-2018, 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyBoyd View Post
...and pass the word at work about the survey. Every time I bring up an ALPA email to another pilot, I’m amazed at the high number that don’t get the emails.
Just ask them who their block rep is, if you feel like beating your head against the wall.
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Old 07-05-2018, 09:00 PM
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Happy to do an online survey. Will continue to participate to the max extent I can. Here’s my write in response in the online survey.
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Each added correspondence from the union only adds to my misunderstanding of this complex VBP. As a 3X year old, I absolutely understand the concept that compound interest will serve me better than the A-plan from 1997. But since the various union commiunications (of which, I’ve read ALL of them, spent hours with the modeler) continue to befuddle me, I will not be voting away the A-plan when that time comes. I would however, vote for an A & B plan increase from the company.

In addition, I take with a shaker of salt any high-5 complete pilot with 25 YOS who tells me to vote yes to the VBP. Nothing against these individuals, I’d do the same thing. But their vote is basically to increase and already good deal, and that have no bearing on the risk I would assume if I vote away my pension.

I’m not willing to take the risk of what I understand (so far) that the VBP provides. If the vote was today, I would vote against the VBP.
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Old 07-06-2018, 05:17 AM
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So what phone number do they use to call you?

I get about two or three robocalls per day, and have the Nomorobo app on my phone to intercept/report these calls. How do I know if it is a call from ALPA rather than from "Floyd" who sounds suspiciously like he is in Bangalore?

[I guess it doesn't matter anyway, I'm NOT voting for this crap~!]
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple View Post
Happy to do an online survey. Will continue to participate to the max extent I can. Here’s my write in response in the online survey.
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Each added correspondence from the union only adds to my misunderstanding of this complex VBP. As a 3X year old, I absolutely understand the concept that compound interest will serve me better than the A-plan from 1997. But since the various union commiunications (of which, I’ve read ALL of them, spent hours with the modeler) continue to befuddle me, I will not be voting away the A-plan when that time comes. I would however, vote for an A & B plan increase from the company.

In addition, I take with a shaker of salt any high-5 complete pilot with 25 YOS who tells me to vote yes to the VBP. Nothing against these individuals, I’d do the same thing. But their vote is basically to increase and already good deal, and that have no bearing on the risk I would assume if I vote away my pension.

I’m not willing to take the risk of what I understand (so far) that the VBP provides. If the vote was today, I would vote against the VBP.
Well I have 25 and my high five and with the information presented by the union, I am not for this complex plan.

For one, I do not want to hose everyone behind me.

Secondly I am not so sure that the already earned benifit retirement money will not be put in the same pot of money for the un negotiated fund administrator to play with.

Third and biggest the Union simply has not ever negotiated anything the company has not found a way to circumvent!!!!!

I find it unbelievable that the union did not even run the numbers for a cash over cap b fund solution!
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Old 07-08-2018, 10:17 PM
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So what phone number do they use to call you?

I get about two or three robocalls per day, and have the Nomorobo app on my phone to intercept/report these calls. How do I know if it is a call from ALPA rather than from "Floyd" who sounds suspiciously like he is in Bangalore?

[I guess it doesn't matter anyway, I'm NOT voting for this crap~!]
They call from *(603) 397-0635‬.
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