Fedex Hiring Part II
04-30-2018, 10:46 AM
#111
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Originally Posted by kronan
I've flown with more than 1 pilot who was trading up his BLG 12 and going Neg 6 in the makeup bank every month, sad to say at least one individual started blocking his calendar after I pointed out doing so was counter-productive since we were a year + into negotiations.
If there was No limit other than FARs, think quite a few folks would try and work a bit more than they do now. Why wouldn't they try to add more days away from home if they have weekend layovers at home, or even layovers during the week
Do I think it would be 400, no, but you never know. I think a lot of people appreciated the elimination of the 48 hour blackout in CBA 06, but the impact was a reduced use of Reserve pilots for those using SL, reduced hiring, and a greater reliance on bringing R24 pilots into Memphis for HSBY just in case
If there was No limit other than FARs, think quite a few folks would try and work a bit more than they do now. Why wouldn't they try to add more days away from home if they have weekend layovers at home, or even layovers during the week
Do I think it would be 400, no, but you never know. I think a lot of people appreciated the elimination of the 48 hour blackout in CBA 06, but the impact was a reduced use of Reserve pilots for those using SL, reduced hiring, and a greater reliance on bringing R24 pilots into Memphis for HSBY just in case
04-30-2018, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
I concede half the pilots prefer QOL over money. I have a couple hundred hours of makeup myself. That leaves the other half. Changing that rule would change the way the company handles reserves and how many lines they publish. Much like they did when we changed the bid for training rules and cut the number of VTO trips significantly in 2006.
04-30-2018, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Ok I got you, so changing the rules doesn’t necessarily mean guys will fly more, however the company will expect them to fly more hence everything changes.
And for the rest of us here, this is some pretty ridiculous thread drift for a thread titled, "FedEx Hiring Part II".
04-30-2018, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by busdriver12
If you were actually a FedEx pilot, instead of just pretending to be one, none of this would have to be explained to you.
And for the rest of us here, this is some pretty ridiculous thread drift for a thread titled, "FedEx Hiring Part II".
And for the rest of us here, this is some pretty ridiculous thread drift for a thread titled, "FedEx Hiring Part II".
As for me being a FedEx pilot, I guess you really think that you’re that great because you’re a FedEx pilot and I’m not capable of such greatness? Well if that make you sleep good at night, sweet dreams.
04-30-2018, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by CapnRC
Am I understanding this correctly??? On reserve you can drop reserve days and pick up trips? You can actually modify your schedule and go flying instead of sitting on reserve?
04-30-2018, 03:34 PM
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Fedex Hiring Part II
Originally Posted by kronan
Yes, I can see FedEx signing off on a reliance of JS on other carriers.
You can really see their willingness to give up control by the way they've expanded the JS CBA Protection to All Types of JumpSeats...not just for those folks using Staging but for those of us on Business or Personal...oh wait...they didn't do that did they?
Other Airlines Long-haul trips...are they 70+ CH trips around the world too? Or do they just do something like JFK-CDG-JFK then off for a couple of days, rinse repeat?
You can really see their willingness to give up control by the way they've expanded the JS CBA Protection to All Types of JumpSeats...not just for those folks using Staging but for those of us on Business or Personal...oh wait...they didn't do that did they?
Other Airlines Long-haul trips...are they 70+ CH trips around the world too? Or do they just do something like JFK-CDG-JFK then off for a couple of days, rinse repeat?
These are just more assumptions. That was the biggest point I made at the end of my post. Why do we keep making assumptions in order to argue against ourselves on something that can benefit some of us? You are the one who brought up the passenger airlines. I was just pointing out that they have commuter protections that don’t make distinctions between domestic, international, long haul, etc, including longer trips as well. And they do it while letting pilots use off line jumpseats also. Another assumption, is the inability to join a trip mid trip. That’s also standard at some other airlines’ commuter policies.
But even if Fdx wouldn’t sign off on allowing off line jumpseats, why not allow protection of using a FDX Jumpseat for all trips, including reserve? Like I said, just having something they consider as best practice being codified into contractual language would be better than what we have now, which is nothing. If it helps ONE pilot, it would be a win win.
Instead of arguing why FDX MIGHT not go for something, let’s advocate for what they can do?
04-30-2018, 04:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fxlax
these are just more assumptions. That was the biggest point i made at the end of my post. Why do we keep making assumptions in order to argue against ourselves on something that can benefit some of us? You are the one who brought up the passenger airlines. I was just pointing out that they have commuter protections that don’t make distinctions between domestic, international, long haul, etc, including longer trips as well. And they do it while letting pilots use off line jumpseats also. Another assumption, is the inability to join a trip mid trip. That’s also standard at some other airlines’ commuter policies.
But even if fdx wouldn’t sign off on allowing off line jumpseats, why not allow protection of using a fdx jumpseat for all trips, including reserve? Like i said, just having something they consider as best practice being codified into contractual language would be better than what we have now, which is nothing. If it helps one pilot, it would be a win win.
Instead of arguing why fdx might not go for something, let’s advocate for what they can do?
But even if fdx wouldn’t sign off on allowing off line jumpseats, why not allow protection of using a fdx jumpseat for all trips, including reserve? Like i said, just having something they consider as best practice being codified into contractual language would be better than what we have now, which is nothing. If it helps one pilot, it would be a win win.
Instead of arguing why fdx might not go for something, let’s advocate for what they can do?
04-30-2018, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
As for me being a FedEx pilot, I guess you really think that you’re that great because you’re a FedEx pilot and I’m not capable of such greatness? Well if that make you sleep good at night, sweet dreams.
To get back on track with the reserve question, there are many people that ditch as much of their reserve as they can and pick up trips instead. I see some of the very bottom guys only flying trips. However, people can't always do it, especially during peak. We seem to be adequately staffed right now, in many seats.
04-30-2018, 06:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Overnitefr8
Yes, IF there are enough other people sitting reserves on the days you are supposed to sit reserves. Some seats or airplanes won't allow this because the manning isn't right.
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