Fedex Hiring Part II
05-07-2018, 10:48 AM
#151
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
And what is industry standard for you missing your trip. You don’t get paid, just like FDX. As I said earlier we already have industry standard, what we are arguing about is whether or not you keep your hours in your make up bank. Most people who work here consider commuting to work one of the best features of working here. One of my fears is in trying to make it a little better for some we screw it up for others.
But unlike FDX, the industry standard is to have a commuter policy to cover any duty period (trips, reserve, training, etc). Of course the standard for everyone is you don’t get paid if you don’t make your trip. The difference is there is no protection here unless you are commuting to a domestic trip only, nothing else. So if you miss one of those here, not only do you not get paid, you may be disciplined.
05-07-2018, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
But unlike FDX, the industry standard is to have a commuter policy to cover any duty period (trips, reserve, training, etc). Of course the standard for everyone is you don’t get paid if you don’t make your trip. The difference is there is no protection here unless you are commuting to a domestic trip only, nothing else. So if you miss one of those here, not only do you not get paid, you may be disciplined.
05-08-2018, 04:32 PM
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Fedex Hiring Part II
Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
Not if you have a reasonable commute plan. I know I have missed a couple of trips. So now you want a non discipline guarantee, instead of the current common sense policy. Think about what would happen if you got your way, everyone who didn’t comply with your non discipline program would probably receive mandatory discipline.
And who decides what a reasonable commute plan is on any particular day? Does it depend on who you talk to? Or if they are having a good day? Did someone kick their dog that day? Or maybe it’s the new guy in his new position?
Who decided the current commute plan for domestic trips is reasonable? Can someone decide to discipline you if you follow that plan? Can they discipline you if you don’t? So everyone who doesn’t comply with the current program would probably receive mandatory discipline, right? So why is it good for the goose and not the gander?
05-08-2018, 05:32 PM
#156
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Originally Posted by Fdxlag2
So in essence you want to punish the domestic commuters who can commute in and operate out because reserve guys can’t? .
05-08-2018, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by NoHaz
Where's it say you can't jumpseat into reserve duty?
05-08-2018, 07:34 PM
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You are Technically Not protected if you are Jumpseating into a Trip on Personal status (or Business for that matter)
You are Not Protected jumpseating in for RA...you would be protected if you were 1st fly and Assigned a trip and it meets the timing provisions.
I, personally, don't JS into Memphis on Sunday for a Tuesday morning RA period. I jumpseat in Monday evening (my scheduled arrival is 1130sh). When my flight's been delayed for Wx, Mx, etc...I give my Scheduler a call. I inform him\her that I am on FDX 1234, estimated to arrive at 0100 and I will already be at the Airport if needed or offer to be removed from that R day and go home.
A letter in my file if I don't make it into Reserve if my FedEx flight gets canceled, and there's no room on the Swept flight, doesn't concern me all that much. Plenty O people wound up with letters for using their negotiated SL benefits. And Plenty of People have received Letters for Sleeping through and missing a scheduled trip.
When the Weather really sucks, and there's a huge need for pilots on Reserve...I guarantee CRS could not care less When you arrive
You are Not Protected jumpseating in for RA...you would be protected if you were 1st fly and Assigned a trip and it meets the timing provisions.
I, personally, don't JS into Memphis on Sunday for a Tuesday morning RA period. I jumpseat in Monday evening (my scheduled arrival is 1130sh). When my flight's been delayed for Wx, Mx, etc...I give my Scheduler a call. I inform him\her that I am on FDX 1234, estimated to arrive at 0100 and I will already be at the Airport if needed or offer to be removed from that R day and go home.
A letter in my file if I don't make it into Reserve if my FedEx flight gets canceled, and there's no room on the Swept flight, doesn't concern me all that much. Plenty O people wound up with letters for using their negotiated SL benefits. And Plenty of People have received Letters for Sleeping through and missing a scheduled trip.
When the Weather really sucks, and there's a huge need for pilots on Reserve...I guarantee CRS could not care less When you arrive
05-08-2018, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR
ALPA contract enforcement told me that to be protected you had to be staging and you were only protected from discipline for a trip not reserve. If you read the contract all references are to a trip "that is why I called to confirm"
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