Sub/DH bank
#4
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How it has worked for me:
Subbed from DH trip, have sub bar. Checked FOX, have the DH bank.
Then I’ve done all 3–“sit” the sub, decline sub and elect OTP, and decline the sub by not returning call within 15 minutes (and not getting OTP as I was out of window for it). In all cases I’ve retained the DH bank of the subbed trip.
I believe the bank is yours the moment you were removed from the trip. Doesn’t matter what you do subsequently.
Subbed from DH trip, have sub bar. Checked FOX, have the DH bank.
Then I’ve done all 3–“sit” the sub, decline sub and elect OTP, and decline the sub by not returning call within 15 minutes (and not getting OTP as I was out of window for it). In all cases I’ve retained the DH bank of the subbed trip.
I believe the bank is yours the moment you were removed from the trip. Doesn’t matter what you do subsequently.
#6
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
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Yeah, I get that.
I have declined a trip on SUB and lost the bank for the trip I was subbed on. Called contract enforcement and they quoted me this.
The Company shall establish a deviation bank for each pilot for each bid period.
i. The value of a given bid period’s deviation bank shall be equal to the value of:
(a) the applicable fare(s) for the scheduled commercial deadhead ticket(s) for all trips flown during that bid period; and
(b) the value of the applicable fare(s) for the scheduled commercial deadhead ticket(s) for recurrent training scheduled during that bid period (if any).
They said that since I refused the trip, it was like I was dropping the trip, so no bank. Maybe it's because I qualified for a lie flat seat. I've heard others that had different experiences. Hopefully, you get to keep the bank.
How it has worked for me:
Subbed from DH trip, have sub bar. Checked FOX, have the DH bank.
Then I’ve done all 3–“sit” the sub, decline sub and elect OTP, and decline the sub by not returning call within 15 minutes (and not getting OTP as I was out of window for it). In all cases I’ve retained the DH bank of the subbed trip.
I believe the bank is yours the moment you were removed from the trip. Doesn’t matter what you do subsequently.
Subbed from DH trip, have sub bar. Checked FOX, have the DH bank.
Then I’ve done all 3–“sit” the sub, decline sub and elect OTP, and decline the sub by not returning call within 15 minutes (and not getting OTP as I was out of window for it). In all cases I’ve retained the DH bank of the subbed trip.
I believe the bank is yours the moment you were removed from the trip. Doesn’t matter what you do subsequently.
The Company shall establish a deviation bank for each pilot for each bid period.
i. The value of a given bid period’s deviation bank shall be equal to the value of:
(a) the applicable fare(s) for the scheduled commercial deadhead ticket(s) for all trips flown during that bid period; and
(b) the value of the applicable fare(s) for the scheduled commercial deadhead ticket(s) for recurrent training scheduled during that bid period (if any).
They said that since I refused the trip, it was like I was dropping the trip, so no bank. Maybe it's because I qualified for a lie flat seat. I've heard others that had different experiences. Hopefully, you get to keep the bank.
#7
If a trip is changed or Cancelled by the company-you retain the bank.
The bank might or might not be showing in your Online Expense report depending upon how frequently you check\submit receipts\etc. If the Bank is not there, it's a simple process to Add. Auditors will make sure you had the trip, and then the bank will appear on your expense report.
If you are given a SUB trip with a DH, and you subsequently Decline that SUB trip, then you don't get the bank.
If you had a DH trip that went into SUB, and you were given a SUB trip with a DH and you operate that SUB trip...then you get Both Banks
The bank might or might not be showing in your Online Expense report depending upon how frequently you check\submit receipts\etc. If the Bank is not there, it's a simple process to Add. Auditors will make sure you had the trip, and then the bank will appear on your expense report.
If you are given a SUB trip with a DH, and you subsequently Decline that SUB trip, then you don't get the bank.
If you had a DH trip that went into SUB, and you were given a SUB trip with a DH and you operate that SUB trip...then you get Both Banks
#8
Note-The Company will NOT save you from yourself. If there is missing Bank $$ in your expense report, they won't track you down and say--hey, pinseeker, shouldn't you have Bank $$ for Trip 123\28 April in your expense report.
#9
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Joined APC: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,820
Yeah, I realize that. After the company told me no, I contacted the union who agreed with the company.
#10
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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If a trip is changed or Cancelled by the company-you retain the bank.
The bank might or might not be showing in your Online Expense report depending upon how frequently you check\submit receipts\etc. If the Bank is not there, it's a simple process to Add. Auditors will make sure you had the trip, and then the bank will appear on your expense report.
If you are given a SUB trip with a DH, and you subsequently Decline that SUB trip, then you don't get the bank.
If you had a DH trip that went into SUB, and you were given a SUB trip with a DH and you operate that SUB trip...then you get Both Banks
The bank might or might not be showing in your Online Expense report depending upon how frequently you check\submit receipts\etc. If the Bank is not there, it's a simple process to Add. Auditors will make sure you had the trip, and then the bank will appear on your expense report.
If you are given a SUB trip with a DH, and you subsequently Decline that SUB trip, then you don't get the bank.
If you had a DH trip that went into SUB, and you were given a SUB trip with a DH and you operate that SUB trip...then you get Both Banks
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