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Old 06-21-2018, 01:20 PM   #1  
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Relatively new guy with a question about New Hire Junior Activation Passover. My understanding was that PO was replaced with SDP. It looks like a new hire will activate in the 76 in the next couple of weeks. I see Passover language is still in the contract under Junior New Hire Activation Compensation. Is it correct that this new hire's activation will trigger passover for a 75F with a 76F award or will it be SDP based on bidding for training slots each month? I have been actively bidding for training, but I have vacation in September with set plans that I don't want to jeopardize even with the short ITU footprint. Will my not bidding for training in Aug effect my collecting PO when this New Hire activates next month or is SDP and PO two different things in this scenario?

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Call ALPA CE. They will tell you why you aren’t eligible.
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Relatively new guy with a question about New Hire Junior Activation Passover. My understanding was that PO was replaced with SDP. It looks like a new hire will activate in the 76 in the next couple of weeks. I see Passover language is still in the contract under Junior New Hire Activation Compensation. Is it correct that this new hire's activation will trigger passover for a 75F with a 76F award or will it be SDP based on bidding for training slots each month? I have been actively bidding for training, but I have vacation in September with set plans that I don't want to jeopardize even with the short ITU footprint. Will my not bidding for training in Aug effect my collecting PO when this New Hire activates next month or is SDP and PO two different things in this scenario?

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I would call contract enforcement and the company and then compare answers and flip a coin for which actually happens.
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Call ALPA CE. They will tell you why you arenít eligible.
LMBO, that is so true
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Sorry if we were not much help, but I would like to know how it worked out.
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My guess is that you will not get POP or SDP. I hope I am wrong, so please let us know what happens and why.

I just wouldn't plan on that extra money.
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This is all relatively new, and until just recently all of the newhires were going into the 75.

Since they've hired people into WBs to fill the open slots from the previous bid, IMO the Defined New Hire Junior Activation pay will be triggered

94. NEW HIRE JUNIOR ACTIVATION COMPENSATION
An hourly rate of pay which is higher than the hourly rate of pay a pilot otherwise
would earn, and to which he may be entitled as a result of a new hire
junior pilot’s activation out of seniority order.

Nowhere in there is any discussion of Bidding Monthly training at 100%, simply seat positions as outlined in 24.F.6 + 7.

What that will actually mean for you, I don't know. But my expectation from your explanation of your situation would mean WB pay for you.

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Keep in mind that the trigger is Activation, not hiring, so they'd need to complete IOE first
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Relatively new guy with a question about New Hire Junior Activation Passover. My understanding was that PO was replaced with SDP. It looks like a new hire will activate in the 76 in the next couple of weeks. I see Passover language is still in the contract under Junior New Hire Activation Compensation. Is it correct that this new hire's activation will trigger passover for a 75F with a 76F award or will it be SDP based on bidding for training slots each month? I have been actively bidding for training, but I have vacation in September with set plans that I don't want to jeopardize even with the short ITU footprint. Will my not bidding for training in Aug effect my collecting PO when this New Hire activates next month or is SDP and PO two different things in this scenario?



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I wish there was an English version of the contract.
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