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Old 07-30-2018, 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by KnightFlyer View Post
I think you can take 2 withdrawals per year on after-tax monies. Check with Vanguard with a call or read the plan rules on their website.

I'm saving 4% after-tax with Vanguard (so as to not lose any B fund contributions). After retirement, I'm rolling all the after-tax monies into a Roth IRA (have to pay tax on any gains) when taxable income is lower.
Why are you waiting until after retirement to move the after tax into the Roth? With the Mega Backdoor you can do it now before it grows.
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Old 07-30-2018, 03:54 PM
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It wasn’t until a few years ago that you could separately pull after tax money out. Before you had to take the whole 401k to roll into a Roth IRA. Vanguard said I had after tax money in there from way back so if I rolled the after tax now I would have to pay tax on the gains. After I retire I’m deferring pension a year so my income will be a lot lower and hopefully tax hit will be less. At least that’s the plan.


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Old 08-03-2018, 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by TOMM View Post
Speak with your tax rep or R&I committee but you can go into vanguard, employer plan, manage my money, and convert your after-tax funds directly into a Roth after each paycheck. If you do this before there are any gains on that money after each check, it immediately goes into a Roth and will grow tax free. The contributions and gains.

https://retirementplans.vanguard.com...hInPlanQnA.jsf
It seems you guys are talking about 2 different things. The mega backdoor is taking after tax 401k money and funneling it into a Roth IRA. We can only do this twice a year at Fedex. This is how you get $54,000ish a year into your retirement accounts. That “safe” 5% won’t get you there on new FO pay either. In plan conversion on the other hand is done in your 401k plan, not your IRA.
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Old 08-03-2018, 12:06 PM
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We can also do the 401K Roth option, which may mean more taxes up front, but fewer down the road.
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Old 08-04-2018, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Tokyo View Post
We can only do this twice a year at Fedex.

Please elaborate. 2x a year at Vanguard? I don’t understand. It’s just a function of the Vanguard website to convert to Roth. Haven’t seen a 2x a year restriction anywhere. Thanks.
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Old 08-06-2018, 05:30 AM
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From the PRSP section of the Pilot Benefit Book, under the After Tax column, pg R-57:

Regular withdrawals
allowed twice each Plan
Year. Withdrawals are
processed within one
week upon Vanguard’s
receipt of the withdrawal
application. Minimum
regular withdrawal is
$500, or entire account if
less than $500.

Again, this is not under the convert to Roth button on Vanguard. It falls under the withdrawal/loan button. You withdraw after-tax Roth 401k money and tell them to deposit it into your Roth IRA.
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