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Froggy 08-11-2018 08:14 AM

Europe Living whilst CGN based
 
As I understand it a lot if not most trips start with a DH to CDG. From anyone that does it or knows someone; how hard is it to live in say France or Portugal, and can you alternate travel your way to CDG to start your pattern?
Thanks in advance !

TOMM 08-11-2018 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by Froggy (Post 2653191)
As I understand it a lot if not most trips start with a DH to CDG. From anyone that does it or knows someone; how hard is it to live in say France or Portugal, and can you alternate travel your way to CDG to start your pattern?
Thanks in advance !

The trips start at the outstations, not CDG. So you will DH to BCN, AMS, EMA, etc. There are a couple that might start out of CDG but it is not the majority. If you live outside 100 miles from CGN you do not get the housing allowance. There are people that do it, but it is not many.

Froggy 08-11-2018 11:21 AM

Will they buy you a ticket from where you live if the price is the same?

kc10/c130 08-11-2018 11:34 AM


Originally Posted by Froggy (Post 2653280)
Will they buy you a ticket from where you live if the price is the same?

Yes up to the cost for original dh. Out of pocket for anything above.

Sluggo_63 08-11-2018 09:53 PM


Originally Posted by kc10/c130 (Post 2653283)
Yes up to the cost for original dh. Out of pocket for anything above.

Well, up to the cost of the established fare, which may or may not be in anyway related to the cost of the original deadhead.

seattlepilot 08-12-2018 02:11 AM

How hard is it go get right after training ?
When can you go back when your 4-5 year times runs out ?


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Sluggo_63 08-12-2018 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by seattlepilot (Post 2653580)
How hard is it go get right after training ?

If you don't get it in BI, you'll have to wait for a seat bid. I haven't seen a new hire get Cologne in a while. They are still putting new hires into Hong Kong.

Originally Posted by seattlepilot (Post 2653580)
When can you go back when your 4-5 year times runs out ?


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After you hit the limit (4 yrs 11 mos), you have to bid out of CGN for one year, then you can bid back.

appDude 08-12-2018 05:46 AM

Yes, you could commute from a lot of places in Europe, but...

You need to ask someone smarter than me on the FDA contract stuff.
Not living in CGN may have move $$, housing $$, and/or tax implications.

Huck 08-12-2018 06:31 PM

The hard part would be a visa....

gcsass 08-14-2018 09:18 AM

Just for clarity sake.....you have to be within 100 miles and within the same country as the base airport.....

appDude 08-14-2018 09:37 AM


Originally Posted by gcsass (Post 2654970)
Just for clarity sake.....you have to be within 100 miles and within the same country as the base airport.....

But not really clear....
That is in context of getting certain benefits, yes?

TOMM 08-14-2018 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by gcsass (Post 2654970)
Just for clarity sake.....you have to be within 100 miles and within the same country as the base airport.....

That is if you want to receive the benefits of the FDA basing as listed in the LOA, ex. housing allowance. We have people living outside the 100 mile ring, some by quite a bit. There is nothing to stop you living outside that ring. What does FedEx help you with or how much you are on your own I cannot answer when it comes to things like visas, support in finding housing, etc.

gcsass 08-14-2018 04:21 PM


Originally Posted by TOMM (Post 2655069)
That is if you want to receive the benefits of the FDA basing as listed in the LOA, ex. housing allowance. We have people living outside the 100 mile ring, some by quite a bit. There is nothing to stop you living outside that ring. What does FedEx help you with or how much you are on your own I cannot answer when it comes to things like visas, support in finding housing, etc.

Ok....next time I’ll use the quote function....

Yes, to get housing allowance you must be within 100 miles and in same country...

As a fda commuter (which I am) you get 10K seed money, any required visas and I believe you get the storage although I don’t use it. You also get the longevity bonus. You can not use tax equalization.

That’s all I can think of from the top of my head.....Sluggo is a great source of info too!

Cheers!

EUhoppa 03-23-2019 09:35 PM

EU Taxes
 
Now, Im pretty familiar with the IRS rules on the US citizens employed abroad and their tax exclusion. But what about German taxes? Because technically, if FDX pilot is in Germany for that long, he is a resident? Do boys need to pay any tax to the Deutsch Uncle Sam?

PA31 03-25-2019 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by EUhoppa (Post 2788543)
Now, Im pretty familiar with the IRS rules on the US citizens employed abroad and their tax exclusion. But what about German taxes? Because technically, if FDX pilot is in Germany for that long, he is a resident? Do boys need to pay any tax to the Deutsch Uncle Sam?

You are a German resident and FedEx pays your DE taxes.

TonyC 03-25-2019 11:24 AM

Up until the 5 year point, you have the option of participating in your home (U.S.) or host (Germany) tax program. After the 5 year point, Germany requires you participate in their program. That's why FedEx requires you to move back to the U.S. before the 5 year mark, and that's why they needed our agreement via membership vote.



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TonyC 03-25-2019 11:25 AM


Originally Posted by PA31 (Post 2789733)

You are a German resident and FedEx pays your DE taxes.


Not true.





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TonyC 03-25-2019 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2789757)

Up until the 5 year point, you have the option of participating in your home (U.S.) or host (Germany) tax program. After the 5 year point, Germany requires you participate in their program. That's why FedEx requires you to move back to the U.S. before the 5 year mark, and that's why they needed our agreement via membership vote.



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Oh, by the way, we, the PILOTS, got nothing in exchange for this change to the FDA LOA.






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PA31 03-25-2019 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 2789758)
Not true.





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Seeing as I’m based in CGN, I disagree with you. I have a German residency card and FedEx has paid my DE taxes the last two years.

TonyC 03-25-2019 12:24 PM


Originally Posted by PA31 (Post 2789794)

Seeing as I’m based in CGN, I disagree with you. I have a German residency card and FedEx has paid my DE taxes the last two years.


Ahh, imprecise language. You do not participate in German Social Security, correct? After 5 years, you would be required to do so. As of now, you are still participating in U.S. Social Security.


The Social Security tax is the bugaboo.






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