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Old 01-11-2019, 10:00 AM   #61  
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He wasn't hired as a line pilot, he was hired as a manager. How would he return to the line if he was never hired to the line?

Oh yeah, I forgot, the company always follows what we think the intent of the contract is!
This exact situation occurred when I was a new hire. A manager was in my class. He completed training and was line qualified but remained in his management role. He has since left his management job and is flying the line and I believe working on a few projects.

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Old 01-11-2019, 10:25 AM   #62  
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ALPA seat on the screening panel / hiring board

Preferential hiring for ALPA furloughees ...

Restore Pilot Recommendations which actually matter (Why do they care what I think about probationary pilots when they don't care who I want them to interview?)

Abolish extracontracual requirements placed on probationary pilots. Pilot Evaluations, 6-month checkups, exit interviews ... all made up and imposed on new guys under threat of being fired without cause.

Reduce probation period to original length - 0 days

How'm I doin' so far?

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No problem with any of those. Which one would have prevented the current tragedy?
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Old 01-11-2019, 11:50 AM   #63  
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I wonder if he had as much trouble with the new pilot application webpage as all the others seeking employment here are currently having.
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Old 01-11-2019, 12:29 PM   #64  
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This exact situation occurred when I was a new hire. A manager was in my class. He completed training and was line qualified but remained in his management role. He has since left his management job and is flying the line and I believe working on a few projects.

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Really???

According to the union, this has never happened before. Who was the manager? What was his management job?

Don't take this the wrong way, but either you or the union doesn't know what they are talking about.
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Old 01-11-2019, 05:23 PM   #65  
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No problem with any of those. Which one would have prevented the current tragedy?

The first, perhaps.

Who called it a tragedy? Oh, wait, was that you being sarcastic?


Let me ask you this: Nothing prevents the VP of Flight Ops from sitting through a Basic Indoctrination Class, and he can go through any Initial Training Course and get any type rating he wants. So why does he need a seniority number? What does that get him that management status doesn't?






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The first, perhaps.

Who called it a tragedy? Oh, wait, was that you being sarcastic?


Let me ask you this: Nothing prevents the VP of Flight Ops from sitting through a Basic Indoctrination Class, and he can go through any Initial Training Course and get any type rating he wants. So why does he need a seniority number? What does that get him that management status doesn't?

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I can get you his email if you want to ask him.
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I can get you his email if you want to ask him.
for one, he gets a job if someone up the chain relieves him of his present duties.
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Old 01-11-2019, 08:15 PM   #68  
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for one, he gets a job if someone up the chain relieves him of his present duties.


For another, he can actually fly an airplane.


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So when did he interview? Who was on his panel? When did he fly last? Doe he have 100 hrs in the last year, or 200 hrs, or more? Did he have any PE’s? Where did he rank on the “point program”? Too many questions, and a waste of a seniority slot, cause he is never going to fly the line. He just wants to be able to pdo bump somebody on a milk run during the day with some lca so he might be able to sit in the left seat. He is not a line pilot, and never will be. Go back to Southwest, you poser.
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