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FedexGuy 10-09-2018 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2688466)
Yes I do. The point is the guy who got hired as a pilot before you had the qualifications had done other things as well and worked their butt off. You didn't have the qualifications. If you think you should have a right to be a captain ahead of a pilot that got hired 8 years before you did just because you threw boxes at FedEx for 10 years, you have ZERO idea how seniority works in the airline industry.

I don't need perspective. I can already see that you feel entitled.

Ok so I’m entitle because I want to put in sweat equity to earn my spot? Sounds like I’m really entitled... I thought FedEx likes to hire from within? I was being polite and **** earlier saying thanks for the response, then you go calling me entitled. Just trying to figure it out man, just like I’m sure at one point in your life you were too. Have a good day. Personally I would hire a guy who worked his ass off for the company for ten years and flew for another company(working two jobs) over a guy who just worked one job and has more hours. Just my opinion.

ShyGuy 10-09-2018 08:31 AM

This has to be trolling. If not, it would make for a great addition to the millennial oddity thread. “New FO tells CA he threw boxes for 10 yrs and should have been senior to the CA because he was hired at Fedex first.” :D

Or at the very least, he’d make for an epic “why I left the industry” YouTube video. “Can you believe they didn’t give me 10 yrs pilot seniority for all the sweat equity hard labor I put in as a part time package handler?” :eek:

pinseeker 10-09-2018 08:55 AM


Originally Posted by FedexGuy (Post 2688504)
Ok so I’m entitle because I want to put in sweat equity to earn my spot? Sounds like I’m really entitled... I thought FedEx likes to hire from within? I was being polite and **** earlier saying thanks for the response, then you go calling me entitled. Just trying to figure it out man, just like I’m sure at one point in your life you were too. Have a good day. Personally I would hire a guy who worked his ass off for the company for ten years and flew for another company(working two jobs) over a guy who just worked one job and has more hours. Just my opinion.

No, you are entitled because you think that throwing boxes part time should put you ahead of a pilot who was qualified and hired as a FedEx pilot before you were qualified for the job.

You didn't just simply thank me for my response, you *****ed about it not being fair. You also imply that you are working your a$$ off and the pilot hired before you didn't.

Bring that attitude to a job interview at FedEx and see what happens. But hey, you can still have that part time job throwing boxes, working your a$$ off.:rolleyes::eek:

And to bring you back to your original question, it wasn't about getting hired or an interview from within, it was about jumping over someone in seniority just because you threw boxes part time. If you don't understand the difference, you have a lot to learn. Most, if not all of the pilots working at FedEx made sacrifices to get here. That is why you come across as entitled.

FedexGuy 10-09-2018 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by pinseeker (Post 2688519)
No, you are entitled because you think that throwing boxes part time should put you ahead of a pilot who was qualified and hired as a FedEx pilot before you were qualified for the job.

You didn't just simply thank me for my response, you *****ed about it not being fair. You also imply that you are working your a$$ off and the pilot hired before you didn't.

Bring that attitude to a job interview at FedEx and see what happens. But hey, you can still have that part time job throwing boxes, working your a$$ off.:rolleyes::eek:

And to bring you back to your original question, it wasn't about getting hired or an interview from within, it was about jumping over someone in seniority just because you threw boxes part time. If you don't understand the difference, you have a lot to learn. Most, if not all of the pilots working at FedEx made sacrifices to get here. That is why you come across as entitled.

Not ****ed at all. Totally understand that everyone makes sacrafices. You are spot on with all the answeres you gave me I was just trying to figure it out. I want the most qualified person for the job to get the job first. I’m not trying to cheat any system or cut in line. I get that the company seniority is not the same as pilot seniority. I assume your vacation and sick time would go by when you were hired at the company correct?

ARAMP1 10-09-2018 09:05 AM

Vacation bidding (just like anything schedule related) is based on your seniority as a pilot.

Every pilots sick time is the same.

Fdxlag2 10-09-2018 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by FedexGuy (Post 2688528)
Not ****ed at all. Totally understand that everyone makes sacrafices. You are spot on with all the answeres you gave me I was just trying to figure it out. I want the most qualified person for the job to get the job first. I’m not trying to cheat any system or cut in line. I get that the company seniority is not the same as pilot seniority. I assume your vacation and sick time would go by when you were hired at the company correct?

Just about everything to do with Pilot employment is governed by the Collective Bargaining Agreement. Sick Pay Vacation and Seniority in particular. The rules are different than they are for box tossers.

FlatAlbert 10-09-2018 09:18 AM


Originally Posted by FedexGuy (Post 2688406)
Let’s say I got a job as a package handler part time tomorrow. Would my seniority at the company as a package handler transfer over to seniority among the pilot seniority list once I become a pilot for Fedex?


Don't listen to these guys telling you that you don't get to keep your seniority. When you interview for a pilot position, just tell them that you expect to keep your seniority, and you want to go ahead and be a Captain because after all, you have earned it! If you tell the interviewer that, he or she has to honor your wishes. (insert extreme sarcasm emoji here)

Almost There 10-09-2018 10:10 AM


Originally Posted by FedexGuy (Post 2688528)
Not ****ed at all. Totally understand that everyone makes sacrafices. You are spot on with all the answeres you gave me I was just trying to figure it out. I want the most qualified person for the job to get the job first. I’m not trying to cheat any system or cut in line. I get that the company seniority is not the same as pilot seniority. I assume your vacation and sick time would go by when you were hired at the company correct?

Longevity with the Company is different than Pilot Senority.

5millionaire 10-09-2018 10:31 AM

Wait so if I want to be the next CEO I just need to start throwing boxes and wait until my number is up?

ARAMP1 10-09-2018 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by FlatAlbert (Post 2688541)
Don't listen to these guys telling you that you don't get to keep your seniority. When you interview for a pilot position, just tell them that you expect to keep your seniority, and you want to go ahead and be a Captain because after all, you have earned it! If you tell the interviewer that, he or she has to honor your wishes. (insert extreme sarcasm emoji here)

Shouldn't be a big deal...he'll be senior to the interview guys.


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