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Old 10-09-2018, 12:26 PM
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Throwing boxes will give you a leg up. It will give you an FDX employee number which your interviewer will see and you can talk about. A current or former employee shows loyalty and a good work record. There have been times in the past when the only hiring going on was internal hires. So the box throwing job lets you understand the company and see what the behind the scenes business looks like.

You might get a leg up when trying to get an interview. You might be an earlier interview than those that were on the outside waiting for years to be called. If you get through your interview and are hired, you start over at the back of the line. Maybe you received a benefit from throwing boxes maybe not. If you did, then it was for the best. If not, then you will have to decide if throwing boxes was a better gig than what alternative job you might have been doing waiting to be called.
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Old 10-09-2018, 12:42 PM
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this is hilarious!
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Old 10-09-2018, 01:01 PM
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Instead of tossing boxes you should join one of the FedEx Feeders. You get to fly an aircraft with a FedEx paintjob. You’ll have a shot at mainline if you qualify for the Purple Runway program and keep your nose clean.
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Old 10-10-2018, 03:30 AM
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Honestly, you have your sights set too low. Stay in that box throwing job a couple more years, and move into a senior VP position. Isn't that the very same logic you want to apply to the pilot group?

A 15 year ramp worker who gets an accounting degree, doesn't move to the head of the accounting department if they get hired there. They are new to the department, and go to the end of the line.

Everyone here was a captain of his ship before they were here, but the majority of us spent a little while plumbing when we got here.
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Old 10-10-2018, 05:05 AM
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Originally Posted by FedexGuy View Post
Let’s say I got a job as a package handler part time tomorrow. Would my seniority at the company as a package handler transfer over to seniority among the pilot seniority list once I become a pilot for Fedex?
Ha ha ha!!!
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Old 10-10-2018, 05:15 AM
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Originally Posted by md11retiree View Post
Ha ha ha!!!
With your seniority I’ll bet you could move on over and be chief package handler. Although you might not want to put that on a business card.
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Old 10-10-2018, 09:30 AM
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Everybody is giving crap, I get it. I’m going to assume he’s not a troll and was curious. Many other union/seniority based jobs (union plumbers, pipe fitters, electricians, etc.) have portable seniority.

To the OP, the airline industry doesn’t work like that. Your position on the pilot seniority list (separate than company seniority) is determined when you start Basic Indoc as a pilot.

But, to everyone else who is giving him grief... does he have such a bad idea? Not in the way he thinks, but as a new-hire I wouldn’t have been opposed to people who previously worked at the company having higher seniority in their new-hire class. The way we do it now is random anyhow. Last 4 of your SSN. If I had a guy or gal in my class with a 2XXX last four, but he threw boxes for 10 years here at Express, I wouldn’t have blinked an eye if they put him ahead of everyone else that had no previous time with the company. Now that I think of it, I like my idea. If I was king of BI, I’d determine seniority within a BI class as:
1) Previous full-time employees based on time with company
2) Previous part-time employees based on time with company
3) Everyone else based on last 4 of SSN.

That would reward people like Pros, corporate guys, box throwers who hitched their wagon to this company before they were pilots here.
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Old 10-11-2018, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by FedexGuy View Post
Why? I would technically have more time at the company than a pilot who got hired a year later. Why would I not get put into the list respective to my hire date?
It used to be that way in the early to mid 70's but later the policy was changed and only counted for vacation and retirement accrual. That policy was discontinued with the CBA of 2006.(I think it was 2006)
If you are a FedEx employee you can apply "internally" for a Crewmember position.
Good luck to you
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Old 10-11-2018, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by FedexGuy View Post
Why? I would technically have more time at the company than a pilot who got hired a year later. Why would I not get put into the list respective to my hire date?
Get used to it bud. Seniority is everything in this gig and the only way you get is by being on a specific airlines PILOT Seniority List.

This will dictate everything in you career:

Aircraft Assignments
Seat Assignments
Monthly Schedule Award
Vacation Award
Promotions/Demotions
Keeping a Job/Being Furloughed
Etc, etc, etc.
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Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler View Post
It used to be that way in the early to mid 70's but later the policy was changed and only counted for vacation and retirement accrual. That policy was discontinued with the CBA of 2006.(I think it was 2006)
If you are a FedEx employee you can apply "internally" for a Crewmember position.
Good luck to you
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I went to the line in 2000 after my three years in the Training Department and I got credit for three years for retirement but started at zero for vacation. The guys just ahead of me got full credit for their time for vacation longevity. Timing is everything!!
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