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tommy2times 11-13-2018 09:58 AM

FedEx Pilot Life Expectancy
 
Have an upcoming interview with FedEx but am concerned about the very short life expectancy of a FedEx pilot. I would like to live to be a very old man... :D

kc10/c130 11-13-2018 10:05 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2707615)
Have an upcoming interview with FedEx but am concerned about the very short life expectancy of a FedEx pilot. I would like to live to be a very old man... :D

Easy. Get senior and stay senior. I'd say live in domicile but for us that may cause an early death. :eek:

Anthrax 11-13-2018 10:38 AM

most fedex pilots want to die old, but consider the type-a personality of most pilots coupled with the drive for money coupled with the complexities of life and the justifications for one more draft trip or one more sell-back of vacation or one more year on property because you’re senior and again the money is intoxicating and you have no hobbies. The head gets lost in the game, but the heart and the body are keeping score and the debt will be paid.
If you can avoid the temptations it can be done; however, when a wide-body captain shows you photos of his second house on the water, his Tesla, his girlfriend’s $10,000 implants, if he offers to buy all the booze on all of the layovers it’s easy for a type-A personality to take the bait and get in this game.

pinseeker 11-13-2018 10:55 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2707615)
Have an upcoming interview with FedEx but am concerned about the very short life expectancy of a FedEx pilot. I would like to live to be a very old man... :D

Then you should skip the interview. :rolleyes:

Reese 11-13-2018 11:48 AM

I love this argument/question/statement.

What wears airplanes out? What's hard on the body? It's not flying at night(which isn't great either). It's flying IN GENERAL.

Cycles. The pressurization followed by the depressurization over and over again is the main culprit. This is why long haul jets can fly more hours than short haul jets, less cycles. In addition to cycles, breathing recycled air, time spent at 30k+ feet with gamma rays/radiation, and dehydration.

Sure, FedEx flies at night, eventually that ends with seniority. Even flying at night, I get 6-8hrs of sleep. And I only go through 30 cycles in a month, and block less than 400hrs a year and have 4-6hrs a day(after I get my sleep) to work out, walk around, and stretch the legs before my 1.5hr flight back to Memphis.

Your pax carriers block close to 1000hrs a year, and how many cycles a month? 50+? At least twice as many as FedEx. How much dry/recycled air are they exposed to? radiation at altitude? Dehydration that is inherent with flying made worse by the fact that pax pilots try not to drink too much water so they don't have to get out of the cockpit to ****.

FLYING is terrible on the human body. Frequent fliers have shown degraded health compared to less frequent fliers (studies have been conducted).

Bottom line is this, airline pilots IN GENERAL tend to die at a younger age. It's not just cargo. There has been NO official studies of cargo pilots versus pax pilots. The study done by ALPA in the 90s that people love to reference was for ALL of it's pilots, passenger, corporate, and cargo (and don't forget, up to the mid 90s, it was completely normal to smoke in the cockpit/airplane, think about how bad that was for everyone...)

Anyways, work less, save, retire early. Applies to all airline jobs.

NotMrNiceGuy 11-13-2018 11:52 AM

I’d challenge you to find a study or research that corroborates the theory that cargo pilots die early. The only studies that are even close are graveyard shift workers. They work upwards of 22-25 night shifts a month. A typical freight dog probably works 9-11 per month with a two to three hour nap in the middle and probably averages six to eight hours in a 24 hour period.

Make sleep a priority and get some exercise in at the hotel. Problem solved. But seriously, do some due diligence and separate the myth from reality.

tomgoodman 11-13-2018 12:00 PM

One study claims that airline pilots live longer than average. :confused:

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs...93129403800126

IFlytheLine 11-13-2018 12:35 PM


Originally Posted by Reese (Post 2707698)
I love this argument/question/statement.

What wears airplanes out? What's hard on the body? It's not flying at night(which isn't great either). It's flying IN GENERAL.

Cycles. The pressurization followed by the depressurization over and over again is the main culprit. This is why long haul jets can fly more hours than short haul jets, less cycles. In addition to cycles, breathing recycled air, time spent at 30k+ feet with gamma rays/radiation, and dehydration.

Sure, FedEx flies at night, eventually that ends with seniority. Even flying at night, I get 6-8hrs of sleep. And I only go through 30 cycles in a month, and block less than 400hrs a year and have 4-6hrs a day(after I get my sleep) to work out, walk around, and stretch the legs before my 1.5hr flight back to Memphis.

Your pax carriers block close to 1000hrs a year, and how many cycles a month? 50+? At least twice as many as FedEx. How much dry/recycled air are they exposed to? radiation at altitude? Dehydration that is inherent with flying made worse by the fact that pax pilots try not to drink too much water so they don't have to get out of the cockpit to ****.

FLYING is terrible on the human body. Frequent fliers have shown degraded health compared to less frequent fliers (studies have been conducted).

Bottom line is this, airline pilots IN GENERAL tend to die at a younger age. It's not just cargo. There has been NO official studies of cargo pilots versus pax pilots. The study done by ALPA in the 90s that people love to reference was for ALL of it's pilots, passenger, corporate, and cargo (and don't forget, up to the mid 90s, it was completely normal to smoke in the cockpit/airplane, think about how bad that was for everyone...)

Anyways, work less, save, retire early. Applies to all airline jobs.

Well said!!!

fr8av8r 11-13-2018 12:45 PM


Originally Posted by Reese (Post 2707698)
I love this argument/question/statement.

What wears airplanes out? What's hard on the body? It's not flying at night(which isn't great either). It's flying IN GENERAL.

Cycles. The pressurization followed by the depressurization over and over again is the main culprit. This is why long haul jets can fly more hours than short haul jets, less cycles. In addition to cycles, breathing recycled air, time spent at 30k+ feet with gamma rays/radiation, and dehydration.

Sure, FedEx flies at night, eventually that ends with seniority. Even flying at night, I get 6-8hrs of sleep. And I only go through 30 cycles in a month, and block less than 400hrs a year and have 4-6hrs a day(after I get my sleep) to work out, walk around, and stretch the legs before my 1.5hr flight back to Memphis.

Your pax carriers block close to 1000hrs a year, and how many cycles a month? 50+? At least twice as many as FedEx. How much dry/recycled air are they exposed to? radiation at altitude? Dehydration that is inherent with flying made worse by the fact that pax pilots try not to drink too much water so they don't have to get out of the cockpit to ****.

FLYING is terrible on the human body. Frequent fliers have shown degraded health compared to less frequent fliers (studies have been conducted).

Bottom line is this, airline pilots IN GENERAL tend to die at a younger age. It's not just cargo. There has been NO official studies of cargo pilots versus pax pilots. The study done by ALPA in the 90s that people love to reference was for ALL of it's pilots, passenger, corporate, and cargo (and don't forget, up to the mid 90s, it was completely normal to smoke in the cockpit/airplane, think about how bad that was for everyone...)

Anyways, work less, save, retire early. Applies to all airline jobs.

What Reese said, with emphasis! I retired last year at age 60 with 21 years of service at FDX. I saw working 4 more years as inconsistent with my desire for a long and healthy retirement. :p

Overnitefr8 11-13-2018 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by tommy2times (Post 2707615)
Have an upcoming interview with FedEx but am concerned about the very short life expectancy of a FedEx pilot. I would like to live to be a very old man... :D

What is the life expectancy of a FedEx pilot?


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