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Old 11-22-2018, 09:36 AM
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Can anyone explain the latest fcif that came out today? I was under the impression that regardless of reserve level availability between nov 22 and December 31st. The last sentance of the fcif seems to contest that

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Old 11-22-2018, 10:24 PM
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Can anyone explain the latest fcif that came out today? I was under the impression that regardless of reserve level availability between nov 22 and December 31st. The last sentance of the fcif seems to contest that

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From your CBA:


a. AVA shall be available and assigned to all eligible pilots beginning
7 days prior to showtime for that assignment, based on the
reserve forecast.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:00 AM
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From your CBA:


a. AVA shall be available and assigned to all eligible pilots beginning
7 days prior to showtime for that assignment, based on the
reserve forecast.
You didn't read the grievance referenced in the ALPA email, did you?

2. Advance Volunteer Assignment (AVA) Submission Approvals and Compensation
Section 25.N.4.a. (p. 347) provides that “AVA shall be available and assigned to all eligible pilots beginning 7 days prior to showtime for that assignment, based on the reserve forecast.”
a. The parties agree that during the period referenced in Paragraph 1.a. above, all AVA
submissions shall be deemed to be within the acceptable limits of the reserve forecast model
(and thereby approved); and
b. During other times of the year (subject to 1.b. & c.), AVA submissions for Base Hotel Standbys
(BHS-RS or otherwise) shall be deemed to be within the acceptable limits of the reserve forecast
model (and thereby approved).
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:50 AM
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You didn't read the grievance referenced in the ALPA email, did you?

2. Advance Volunteer Assignment (AVA) Submission Approvals and Compensation
Section 25.N.4.a. (p. 347) provides that “AVA shall be available and assigned to all eligible pilots beginning 7 days prior to showtime for that assignment, based on the reserve forecast.”
a. The parties agree that during the period referenced in Paragraph 1.a. above, all AVA
submissions shall be deemed to be within the acceptable limits of the reserve forecast model
(and thereby approved); and
b. During other times of the year (subject to 1.b. & c.), AVA submissions for Base Hotel Standbys
(BHS-RS or otherwise) shall be deemed to be within the acceptable limits of the reserve forecast
model (and thereby approved).
I sure didn't. Thank you for the information.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:54 AM
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I sure didn't. Thank you for the information.
Thank you both... so any thoughts on the fcif?

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Old 11-23-2018, 03:54 AM
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Can anyone explain the latest fcif that came out today? I was under the impression that regardless of reserve level availability between nov 22 and December 31st. The last sentance of the fcif seems to contest that

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I think that FCIF was more or less automatic based on vacation buy backs. The company would rather that we forgot about the grievance settlement.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:56 AM
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I guess we will find out in 5 minutes.
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Old 11-23-2018, 03:57 AM
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So, in simple man's terms:
If you're looking to put in for trip specific make-up in the next 7 days, put it in as AVA (through the end of Dec). Putting in for Gen M/U just means you get the same trip for 50% less pay.
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Old 11-23-2018, 04:21 AM
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And yet pilots will continue to pick up at straight time again and again. You can lead a horse to water...
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Old 11-23-2018, 05:02 AM
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Confirmed AVA available despite no mention of the seat in the FCIF.
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