FDX Cost Reduction Actions
12-19-2018, 06:24 AM
#11
Fill'er Up Again
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: Scarebus Captain
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Originally Posted by HDawg
Maybe we should read a book about retirement income written by a guy no one ever heard of and tell the company we want to give away our A plan, that should help.
12-19-2018, 04:02 PM
#12
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: 767A (Ret)
Posts: 6,248
Originally Posted by HDawg
Maybe we should read a book about retirement income written by a guy no one ever heard of and tell the company we want to give away our A plan, that should help.
Retirement Heist - Pension Fraud Book - Ellen Schultz
12-20-2018, 04:34 PM
#13
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Lets hold the companies feet to the fire and force them to increase the cap on our current A plan, just like we said we would do in the past 2 contracts. Oh wait, how did that turn out? Lets just sit with what we have while it devalues over time since its been frozen for over 10 years. Do people who say this know what the definition of insanity is? Do some of our pilots not understand math and statistics and what the average YOY return has been in the stock market. Hey lets just go down the same path again this next contract. Heck third times a charm.
12-20-2018, 05:21 PM
#14
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,224
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Lets hold the companies feet to the fire and force them to increase the cap on our current A plan, just like we said we would do in the past 2 contracts. Oh wait, how did that turn out? Lets just sit with what we have while it devalues over time since its been frozen for over 10 years. Do people who say this know what the definition of insanity is? Do some of our pilots not understand math and statistics and what the average YOY return has been in the stock market. Hey lets just go down the same path again this next contract. Heck third times a charm.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
12-20-2018, 05:29 PM
#15
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: Two Wheeler FrontSeat
Posts: 1,162
Originally Posted by golfandfly
Possibly if we had the nuts to turn down the TA we just might have that increase. This plan is a turd. Flush it.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
12-20-2018, 06:52 PM
#16
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Position: Disenfranchised Cost Center
Posts: 170
Originally Posted by golfandfly
Possibly if we had the nuts to turn down the TA we just might have that increase. This plan is a turd. Flush it.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
12-20-2018, 07:19 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,224
Originally Posted by FedupFlex
Need to educate and change the culture of our pilots, starting with the new hires. How many were picking up extra hours at straight pay during negotiations for CBA 2015 (rhetorical question, A LOT!)? How many guys are falling over themselves now to pick up AVA trips?
I’ll agree that we have a lot of independent operators. No excuse for this behavior during negotiations, but we were so short of pilots in 2015 that we still would have had tons of leverage during peak. We’ll probably never have that situation again.
12-21-2018, 01:07 AM
#18
Organizational Learning
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Position: Directly behind the combiner
Posts: 4,948
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
Lets hold the companies feet to the fire and force them to increase the cap on our current A plan, just like we said we would do in the past 2 contracts.
We've only tried to improve the "A" Plan ONE time. That was the last time, when our Negotiating Committee produced a TA littered with concessions, despite the fact The Company was desperate for us to fly more. Lowest ratification vote percentage ever — epic fail.
I'm not sure that counts as one try, but it's the only try so far. If we give up before we really try, we're complete fools.
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12-21-2018, 06:15 AM
#19
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Originally Posted by golfandfly
Possibly if we had the nuts to turn down the TA we just might have that increase. This plan is a turd. Flush it.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
Other ways to get the extra money without ditching our A plan.
12-21-2018, 06:21 AM
#20
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Posts: 1,838
[QUOTE=TonyC;2728859]There's that lie again.
We've only tried to improve the "A" Plan ONE time. That was the last time, when our Negotiating Committee produced a TA littered with concessions, despite the fact The Company was desperate for us to fly more. Lowest ratification vote percentage ever — epic fail.
I'm not sure that counts as one try, but it's the only try so far. If we give up before we really try, we're complete fools.
Tony,
How long has the current plan been frozen? Do you honestly think with current funding regulations on our current A plan we could negotiate that loss back with our current plan?
We've only tried to improve the "A" Plan ONE time. That was the last time, when our Negotiating Committee produced a TA littered with concessions, despite the fact The Company was desperate for us to fly more. Lowest ratification vote percentage ever — epic fail.
I'm not sure that counts as one try, but it's the only try so far. If we give up before we really try, we're complete fools.
Tony,
How long has the current plan been frozen? Do you honestly think with current funding regulations on our current A plan we could negotiate that loss back with our current plan?
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