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Old 12-23-2018, 06:11 AM
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As you increase B Fund % for those making over $275k, more and more money will be left on the table.

As it stands, if you’re making $300k, you’re leaving $2,000 on the table at 8%.

If you increase it to 12%, you’re now leaving $3,000 on the table.

Increase that salary to $350k, it’s $6,000(8%) and $9,000(12%) of lost contributions.

But yes, you are correct, for those making <$275k (like me). you’re good. That wasn’t my point.
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Old 12-23-2018, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Reese View Post
As you increase B Fund % for those making over $275k, more and more money will be left on the table.

As it stands, if you’re making $300k, you’re leaving $2,000 on the table at 8%.

If you increase it to 12%, you’re now leaving $3,000 on the table.

Increase that salary to $350k, it’s $6,000(8%) and $9,000(12%) of lost contributions.

But yes, you are correct, for those making <$275k (like me). you’re good. That wasn’t my point.
He is playing games Reese to try to support his made up point. Lets see how he answers my scenario and how he justfies it in his head. Bottom line is that if you make over 275k and I think 280k next year we are loosing company contribution.
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Old 12-23-2018, 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pinseeker View Post
Not true, they will see the same exact amount of increase as those making $275K. They will even see more contributions to their B fund than those making less than $275K.



Admitting your lack of understanding is the first step in recovery.

Maybe with a little more understanding you'll see that this VB plan isn't worth giving up our current A plan for and that there are much better options out there. All we have to do is say "NO."
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Simple question for you. So lets say we compare a guy who makes 275k to a guy who makes 350k. Which guy will have the most company money contributed to his 401k? Or will they recive the same? Now what about the guy who makes 450k?
Now I see your problem, reading comprehension. I already answered that question about the B fund. If you truly mean 401k contributions, then you are so lost that I can't help you. The max the company contributes to the 401k is $500.

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Old 12-23-2018, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Reese View Post
As you increase B Fund % for those making over $275k, more and more money will be left on the table.

As it stands, if you’re making $300k, you’re leaving $2,000 on the table at 8%.

If you increase it to 12%, you’re now leaving $3,000 on the table.

Increase that salary to $350k, it’s $6,000(8%) and $9,000(12%) of lost contributions.

But yes, you are correct, for those making <$275k (like me). you’re good. That wasn’t my point.
Yes, I have said that we need cash over cap, but stating that an increase in the B fund contribution doesn't help those making over $275K (or the IRS earnings cap for that year) simply isn't true.

You stated that "if we increase the B fund “significantly” with no cash over cap, pilots making over $275k see no increase...."

Based on the 2018 401(a)(17) limits, if we increase the B fund contribution to 12%, the pilot who makes $275K or more will see an increase in B fund contributions of $11K, or 50% more than they received this year.

Again, cash over cap would be great. I am all for it. But to state the an increase in the percentage for B fund contributions doesn't help those who make over the 401(a)(17) limit is false.
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Old 12-23-2018, 02:56 PM
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True. Poor wording on my part.

*Anyone making over $275k, regardless of %, is leaving money on the table without a cash over cap provision.

I should’ve said that from the beginning. That’s my only point.

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Old 12-27-2018, 10:37 AM
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Another cost reduction...
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Or is the website down once again 1:30P Central?...
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