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Old 02-20-2021, 11:05 AM
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The UPS poster makes the most valid point. They do it without an Asia base. HKG could be closed in 3 months if need be. Look how much draft, housing pay, seed money, education money, return tickets, etc to keep it open. A couple deadhead tickets could be offset easily. OAK 76 and ANC 777 opened for a reason. The writing is on the wall. I find it interesting to see some of those screaming about how bad HKG was a year ago and now praying it doesn't close. They screamed and yelled themselves out of a great deal. They now realize the mistakes they made. I honestly feel bad for the group who didn't scream and yell and understood that most of the issues come with living in another country. Its goes with the territory when you bid and FDA. You cant have your cake and eat it to in all circumstances. I honestly hope things get better for the FDAs but we don't control government regulators and the knee jerk regulations and rules they make.
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Old 02-20-2021, 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay View Post
The UPS poster makes the most valid point. They do it without an Asia base. HKG could be closed in 3 months if need be. Look how much draft, housing pay, seed money, education money, return tickets, etc to keep it open. A couple deadhead tickets could be offset easily. OAK 76 and ANC 777 opened for a reason. The writing is on the wall. I find it interesting to see some of those screaming about how bad HKG was a year ago and now praying it doesn't close. They screamed and yelled themselves out of a great deal. They now realize the mistakes they made. I honestly feel bad for the group who didn't scream and yell and understood that most of the issues come with living in another country. Its goes with the territory when you bid and FDA. You cant have your cake and eat it to in all circumstances. I honestly hope things get better for the FDAs but we don't control government regulators and the knee jerk regulations and rules they make.
Someone in the HKG base really hurt you.
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Old 02-20-2021, 11:47 AM
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Just ignore him.
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Old 02-20-2021, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Precontact View Post
UPS has never had an Asia crew base and we have been operating intra-Asia for years so it can be done.
UPS does a fraction of Intra-Asia Ops relative to FDX.
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Old 02-20-2021, 06:00 PM
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Originally Posted by UnusualAttitude View Post
Someone in the HKG base really hurt you.
Please stop quoting him (NoWork) so the rest of us who have blocked him don’t have to see his crap.

It’s pretty clear that a HKG guy must have f-ed his wife while he was out on a trip he couldn’t pick up for anything more than straight pay. Hence his bitterness. That, or he really should see a professional about his unfounded animosity.
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Old 02-21-2021, 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot View Post
UPS does a fraction of Intra-Asia Ops relative to FDX.
I would be curious to see the numbers on this statement.
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Old 02-21-2021, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Precontact View Post
I would be curious to see the numbers on this statement.
Well, to start:

FedEx has ~428 Aircraft in their main fleet
vs
UPS has ~277 Aircraft in their main fleet

FedEx IntraAsia Destinations:
https://www.airlineroutemaps.com/map...ific/Guangzhou
(we don’t fly Cebu anymore and I don’t know about the NZ stuff, otherwise the map is correct)
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Old 02-21-2021, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot View Post
Well, to start:

FedEx has ~428 Aircraft in their main fleet
vs
UPS has ~277 Aircraft in their main fleet

FedEx IntraAsia Destinations:
https://www.airlineroutemaps.com/map...ific/Guangzhou
(we don’t fly Cebu anymore and I don’t know about the NZ stuff, otherwise the map is correct)
Uhhh FedEx does not have 428 aircraft flown by FedEx pilots.
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Old 02-21-2021, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot View Post
Uhhh FedEx does not have 428 aircraft flown by FedEx pilots.
What is the breakdown then? Does that 428 include the A/C flown intra-Canada and the EUR 737s?
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Old 02-21-2021, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by wrxpilot View Post
What is the breakdown then? Does that 428 include the A/C flown intra-Canada and the EUR 737s?
I have no idea where you're getting the 428 number, but any employee can see how many current trunk aircraft we operate.
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