MD-10's Going Away Sooner
11-21-2019, 06:48 AM
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MD-10's Going Away Sooner
Anyone else notice the blurb in today's MD-11 Update? ALL Md-10-10's gone in 14 months with the remaining -30's to follow. That appears far more than the 17-20 they previously indicated would be put out to pasture.
11-21-2019, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by PicklePausePull
Anyone else notice the blurb in today's MD-11 Update? ALL Md-10-10's gone in 14 months with the remaining -30's to follow. That appears far more than the 17-20 they previously indicated would be put out to pasture.
12-03-2019, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Freighthumper
Nothing new here, the MD11 fleet ops update a year ago(11/14/18) said the 10-10s would be gone in two years. Also said the -30s would be around almost as long as the 11s. We’ll see.
12-03-2019, 09:50 AM
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Didn't FDX just buy all of Lufthansa's MD11s for parts?
The factory A330F, based on the -200 fuselage, only holds about 3% more containerized volume than the 763F. The A330-300 P2F holds about 20% more volume than a 763F, and 10% less than the MD11.
There is no factory 330-300 or 330-900 freighter...though for a sizable order I suppose anything might be possible.
I wonder how hard FDX and UPS are lobbying Boeing to launch the 767-X, which would carry 15-17% more volume than the 763 with length and wingspan almost identical to the MD11.
The factory A330F, based on the -200 fuselage, only holds about 3% more containerized volume than the 763F. The A330-300 P2F holds about 20% more volume than a 763F, and 10% less than the MD11.
There is no factory 330-300 or 330-900 freighter...though for a sizable order I suppose anything might be possible.
I wonder how hard FDX and UPS are lobbying Boeing to launch the 767-X, which would carry 15-17% more volume than the 763 with length and wingspan almost identical to the MD11.
12-03-2019, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
The A350 is a better replacement for the MD-11. They just have to make a freighter version of it.
My next biggest concern is the 75, just as Fedex should be as well. Even though we are putting in new cockpits, our oldest ones are approaching 30 years 😳, and there is nothing to replace it (I believe), you have to go up to 76/A330 or down to 73. Haven’t checked what an A321 can hold vs a 75. Next 5 years should be interesting in this regard.
Fedex has done a nice job staying ahead renewing the fleet. Hopefully they will continue to stay in front and push the OEM’s hard enough so we can all benefit!
12-03-2019, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP
The A321 P2F holds 14 AAA/AAY containers, the same amount as FedEx’s 757s and one less than the UPS 757PFs.
12-03-2019, 05:24 PM
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MD-10's Going Away Sooner
Originally Posted by C2078
Being such a new platform, who knows. But seeing as it has not sold well, it they can get a combined 100+ plane order, the bean counters might be intrigued. And then there’s $$$. Might it be too expensive?
My next biggest concern is the 75, just as Fedex should be as well. Even though we are putting in new cockpits, our oldest ones are approaching 30 years
, and there is nothing to replace it (I believe), you have to go up to 76/A330 or down to 73. Haven’t checked what an A321 can hold vs a 75. Next 5 years should be interesting in this regard.
Fedex has done a nice job staying ahead renewing the fleet. Hopefully they will continue to stay in front and push the OEM’s hard enough so we can all benefit!
My next biggest concern is the 75, just as Fedex should be as well. Even though we are putting in new cockpits, our oldest ones are approaching 30 years
, and there is nothing to replace it (I believe), you have to go up to 76/A330 or down to 73. Haven’t checked what an A321 can hold vs a 75. Next 5 years should be interesting in this regard.Fedex has done a nice job staying ahead renewing the fleet. Hopefully they will continue to stay in front and push the OEM’s hard enough so we can all benefit!
I don’t know. I mentioned it because it came from express upper management at an indoc class.
As for the 757 replacement, I read somewhere that Boeing was in talks with FedEx about being the launch customer for the freighter version of the MoM aircraft. Then again, this was before the Max accidents. And what is this about new cockpits in the 757?
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