Adlerdriver

FCIF 19-0161 OVERAGE/SUB/OTP (ADM/GEN)

Issue Date: 04/13/19 1442
Source: Lisa O'Conner
Suspense: 05/31/19
Approved: Alex Antonian

THIS IS A REISSUE OF FCIF-99-152 UPDATED TO REFLECT 2015 CONTRACT LANGUAGE AND EXISTING PROCESSES VIA PFC/VIPS.

OVERAGE AND SUBSTITUTION ELIGIBILITY OPTIONS DUE TO TRIP EXTENSION (Contract Section 4.BB.)

OPTIONS
When a trip is extended so that it creates a conflict with a subsequent trip for which a pilot holds trip guarantee, the pilot has three options available to him under Sections 4.BB.3.c and 4.BB.4.b. of the Agreement. When notified by CRS of the trip extension, the pilot has the following options:



1. Drop the trip in conflict without pay and receive overage for the extended trip as if the dropped trip had never been there. The trip dropped will be eligible for make-up (M/U) and those CHs will be placed in the pilot's make-up bank. Declaration to drop the conflicting trip should be made as soon as possible after being notified of the conflict by CRS but in no event later than 30 minutes after block in from the extended trip, OR

2. Elect to remain eligible for substitution (SUB) for the trip in conflict. In this case the pilot will receive trip guarantee for the original trip that was extended and for the trip in conflict, but will not receive overage during the time the extended trip overlapped the trip that went SUB, however, any portion of the extended trip which covers time previously free of duty will be counted as overage in accordance with normal overage rules provided in Section 4.BB.5. You can access your sub eligibility via PFC/VIPS, OR

3. Elect OTP, if eligible per section 25.H.11.a. In this case the pilot will receive trip guarantee for the original trip that was extended, and overage will be paid as if the conflicting trip(s) had been dropped. The pilot's OTP bank will be credited with the CH value of the trip(s) for which OTP was elected. Credit hours flown in OTP status (PMU pay code) will be paid at 125% in accordance with Section 4.N. of the Agreement. Elect OTP via PFC/VIPS.

TIMING
The pilot should make every effort to choose between his options when he is first notified of the conflict. However, the pilot will be allowed to choose between Drop/Overage (option 1) and SUB (option 2) until 30 minutes after block-in from the extended trip. A pilot wishing to elect OTP MUST do so by the deadlines established in the contract. Those deadlines are as follows:

For trips with SUB window of 72 hours or less, a pilot must elect OTP prior to showtime of the trip upon which he is electing OTP. The only exception to this is if you are not notified of the conflict until after the showtime of the trip, in which case you can elect OTP upon notification of the conflict (in most cases, this will be notification of the trip extension-CRS may not specifically mention SUB eligibility)

For trips with SUB windows longer than 72 hours, the pilot may elect OTP up to the next 0900 after the showtime of the trip for which he is electing OTP


NOTE: Unlike the other two options; there is no ability to elect OTP 30 minutes after block-in from the extended trip, (unless it can be done in accordance with the above parameters) even if it was inconvenient to elect OTP in the required time frame.

DEFAULT SETTING
If a pilot fails to make his election within 30 minutes after block-in, the pilot is deemed to have chosen the SUB option, and there will be no retroactive adjustments. (See Section 4.BB.3.c.ii.,and 4.BB.4.c.).

OTHER CONSIDERATIONS
There are factors that you must consider when making your decision:

If your trip extension is not very long, the accrued overage at 100% or 150% may not be significant relative to the trip guarantee for the trip in conflict. In this case your pay protection for the trip in conflict and any substitution eligibility may outweigh the value of the overage.

If the trip extension was long, the overage at 150% or even 200% may justify dropping the trip in conflict, (or electing OTP if you are still eligible), and letting the overage accrue. Additionally, there are pay protection factors between dropping a trip and having make-up eligibility, versus opting for OTP from your substitution eligibility.

If your trip is extended and it causes a conflict with a subsequent trip for which you do not hold trip guarantee (conflicting trip is VLT, DRF, MUS for example) you will not be entitled to compensation for the removed trip.

Mach Decimal 92

Can’t you assign your travel to Trip NA and explain in the comments?

fdx10

Thanks so much

viperdriver

Why would anyone e pick option one over three?

Adlerdriver

The trip in conflict is huge?
Sometimes folks may not feel like rolling the OTP bones trying to find a hole in their schedule AND an open trip to fill it sometime in the next 3 bid periods. They'd rather just get paid via SUB in the month they expected to fly that big trip. YMMV.

busdriver12

I can see option one being selected. Sometimes you get paid more for sticking with overage for the trip you're on than getting paid for the one you're subbed for....and it's too late to choose OTP for the dropped trip.

Adlerdriver

Ah.. disregard my earlier reply. I thought option 1 was Sub.

pinseeker

Because with option 3, you have to decide to take OTP before the conflicted (sub) trip starts. So, if you are in the field with a broken plane that they are working on and you don't know how long your extension will be, it may be more beneficial to wait to chose between option 1 and option 2.

harvick4

This is why you don't ask advice on the internet. This guy is wrong! Always call the union for clarification on anything, not jetflyers/apc.

You can 100% tag a ticket when you're put into sub. This isn't a bump. You have a sub window, it's on your schedule. Even if you decline sub and get OTP, it still can be tagged to. I've done this multiple times. Put N/A for trip and explain it in the comments when you do your expense report.