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Old 07-24-2019, 05:28 AM
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Av8Tr1,

sorry for the experience. All are part of the whole, and we couldn't fill all the customers needs without Feeder guys flying into the smaller airports.

Always a few tools in any crowd, I've apologized to SWA Capts after a FedEx Capt acted the fool...and I'd do the same today if anyone dropped the "real" pilots phrase where I could hear it
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I have a deep and abiding respect for the feeder pilots.

Twenty years ago they were flying the Fokkers with no serviceable autopilots. Ouch.

I invariably enjoy listening to them in our crewrooms. Lubbock, Alliance, some Florida locations and elsewhere.

I salute Pat Rooney for many reasons. Amongst them, his willingness to go fly feeders after the Triple.

Thank you feeder pilots. Some of you have lonely nightly vigils.
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Pat must feel like he's flying Air China in coach.
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With regards to that post about the purple runway program. If you come in with 0 121 time, it’s going to take you a while. But if you don’t mind working for a company that pays you really well to not fly a lot that’s up to you. I am based and I am home most days. I choose to float out on some occasions. I came to a feeder with prior 121 times so it won’t take me AS long to meet the requirements of the purple runway program. I left a regional because of the commute and I had a baby at home I wanted to see grow up. Now I have another child on the way and I will be able to see it grow up as well. This job is great as long as you live in base and fly in base. The purple runway program has worked. I don’t know how long it will continue to produce candidates. Just takes time. You just have to decide on what QOL you want.
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I’d take whatever Av8tr1 says with a large dose of skepticism. He’s a known troll, and has made a lot of crazy stuff up on the JetCareers forum. He was banned or ignored over there, and appears to be making the rounds over here now.
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With regards to that post about the purple runway program. If you come in with 0 121 time, it’s going to take you a while. But if you don’t mind working for a company that pays you really well to not fly a lot that’s up to you. I am based and I am home most days. I choose to float out on some occasions. I came to a feeder with prior 121 times so it won’t take me AS long to meet the requirements of the purple runway program. I left a regional because of the commute and I had a baby at home I wanted to see grow up. Now I have another child on the way and I will be able to see it grow up as well. This job is great as long as you live in base and fly in base. The purple runway program has worked. I don’t know how long it will continue to produce candidates. Just takes time. You just have to decide on what QOL you want.
Feeder flying really does attract people that don’t want to commute, have young kids, or are old enough that they don’t want to try 121 or might not be able to get through the training without a little warm up in the 135 life first.

I wonder what feeder looks like in 10 years? Seems like the CRJ 200 and ATR will replace the 208, Metro and 99/1900 to some degree. I think you’ll see 737 and CRJ going from hub to outstation airports in place of today’s airplanes getting loaded off of a 757 and then feeding small cities.

The small turboprop airplanes are currently essential as a steeping stone. Maybe if there really are to few pilots, they won’t be needed?
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FedEx needs to feeders to serve certain cities. If they didn’t need them, I bet they would have gotten rid of them. I mean, FedEx owns the airplanes. They just bought new ATRs and will start taking delivery next year sometime.

The CRJ200 doesn’t really hold that much and IFL is using it as an on demand operation. So not really sure what the market looks like on that.

Who knows what the market will be in the future. We are just a long for the ride. My goal is to get to a major 121 airline. Right now, I am enjoying the time at home with my wife and kids.
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Feeder flying really does attract people that don’t want to commute, have young kids, or are old enough that they don’t want to try 121 or might not be able to get through the training without a little warm up in the 135 life first.

I wonder what feeder looks like in 10 years? Seems like the CRJ 200 and ATR will replace the 208, Metro and 99/1900 to some degree. I think you’ll see 737 and CRJ going from hub to outstation airports in place of today’s airplanes getting loaded off of a 757 and then feeding small cities.

The small turboprop airplanes are currently essential as a steeping stone. Maybe if there really are to few pilots, they won’t be needed?
Oh yeah and along with buying new ATRs FedEx bough the new C408 which is supposed to replace the 208 I believe.
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Old 07-25-2019, 06:56 PM
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Maybe FedEx needs to buy new airplanes to help the accounting books??? The 408 on paper looks slow, cost 2-3x more than a used 1900D. You can slide a ULD in, but it still needs to be sorted and filled somewhere. Does that really save that much time? Maybe the capacity inside is bigger than a 1900D? Not sure if fedex has 1900D either. Sounds like it’s fairly new in the UPS feeder system
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Sliding ULDs vs bulk loading saves a ton of time. The big expense comes when you have to buy all brand new loaders for those types of aircraft. They already have to sort the freight anyway so it makes no difference there. These ATRs that we are flying are flying a very old. FedEx is buying for the long term.
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