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StarClipper 05-15-2019 04:39 PM

Contract 2021 Pilot Input
 
Let’s hope this time around our representatives take our input serious and not fall for the company line in the sand. I expect full representation and no sales job in the end.

Nightflyer 05-15-2019 05:46 PM

Hmm... Like the sales job we have gotten on the "new, improved" retirement plan?

You can dream, I guess.

MEMA300 05-15-2019 06:27 PM

Let’s try and get back the things we lost from the 98 contract and the 08 contract...lol. Guys you are gonna get a 3-4% raise that is paid for by QOL losses thru productivity gains. Some known and some unknown until living under the contract. It’s been like that for every contract and will be that way for all the future contracts.

FrankTheTank 05-16-2019 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 2820955)
Let’s try and get back the things we lost from the 98 contract and the 08 contract...lol. Guys you are gonna get a 3-4% raise that is paid for by QOL losses thru productivity gains. Some known and some unknown until living under the contract. It’s been like that for every contract and will be that way for all the future contracts.

You mean the ‘06 contact

REAL TIME TRIP TRADING
Better ability to move/drop reserve

kronan 05-16-2019 11:41 AM

“Forget it he’s rollin”

https://youtu.be/q7vtWB4owdE

MEMA300 05-16-2019 02:40 PM


Originally Posted by FrankTheTank (Post 2821270)
You mean the ‘06 contact

REAL TIME TRIP TRADING
Better ability to move/drop reserve

Ha. Figured I had the wrong year....but knew someone would let me know the right date. We’ve lost too much to get it back...which is why you don’t give it up to begin with.

I hope we don’t get another contract till after I retire....wonder what we will have to give up to get real-time trip trading....maybe give em PBS so we can then real time trip trade.

PurpleToolBox 05-16-2019 05:29 PM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 2821476)
Ha. Figured I had the wrong year....but knew someone would let me know the right date. We’ve lost too much to get it back...which is why you don’t give it up to begin with.

I hope we don’t get another contract till after I retire....wonder what we will have to give up to get real-time trip trading....maybe give em PBS so we can then real time trip trade.

Bingo, someone who gets it. Unless the next TA is overwhelmingly good there’s no way I am voting for it. We giving them PBS with the VTO process (yes Kronan your ilk got what you wanted) and now they’re going to strangle us with it.

There’s no need to let them keep slipping bad things into the contract for perceived good deals.

FrankTheTank 05-17-2019 05:11 AM


Originally Posted by MEMA300 (Post 2821476)
Ha. Figured I had the wrong year....but knew someone would let me know the right date. We’ve lost too much to get it back...which is why you don’t give it up to begin with.

I hope we don’t get another contract till after I retire....wonder what we will have to give up to get real-time trip trading....maybe give em PBS so we can then real time trip trade.

No biggie.. Wasn’t trying to be an A-hole... Just clarifying..

NO PBS

BlueMoon 05-17-2019 05:13 AM

Been here a few years, came from a couple regionals that had PBS, so it was all I knew up till I got hired here. PBS sucks. I hope to never go back to that.

kronan 05-17-2019 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 2821576)
Bingo, someone who gets it. Unless the next TA is overwhelmingly good there’s no way I am voting for it. We giving them PBS with the VTO process (yes Kronan your ilk got what you wanted) and now they’re going to strangle us with it.

There’s no need to let them keep slipping bad things into the contract for perceived good deals.

Yes,
because we all know the previous VTO system wasn’t PBS.

And we all know that FedEx is expanding the VTO system by hiding scheduled flying instead of publishing trips in the bidpack.

I know it’s so because I read it on the internet.


3 times through the new VTO system for me now. 100% of the time no one Junior to me has been awarded a trip I requested, something that NEVER happened during all of my previous trips through VTO land with our weighted/minimal inputs. 2 of my all time favorite “reasons” reports when I kvetched under the previous system. “It’s a Request. And, “I missed that input, but you probably wouldn’t have been awarded that layover trip at home since it was part of your 4’th request and the other pilot had it as part of his #1”

18 VTO Lines Junior to me and someone else was awarded a week of layovers at home for me because I was hoping to not work that week...but if I had to, layovers at home better than having to try and rework the schedule to make it work.


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