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Old 05-15-2019, 04:39 PM   #1  
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Letís hope this time around our representatives take our input serious and not fall for the company line in the sand. I expect full representation and no sales job in the end.
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Hmm... Like the sales job we have gotten on the "new, improved" retirement plan?

You can dream, I guess.
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Old 05-15-2019, 06:27 PM   #3  
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Letís try and get back the things we lost from the 98 contract and the 08 contract...lol. Guys you are gonna get a 3-4% raise that is paid for by QOL losses thru productivity gains. Some known and some unknown until living under the contract. Itís been like that for every contract and will be that way for all the future contracts.
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Old 05-16-2019, 09:50 AM   #4  
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Letís try and get back the things we lost from the 98 contract and the 08 contract...lol. Guys you are gonna get a 3-4% raise that is paid for by QOL losses thru productivity gains. Some known and some unknown until living under the contract. Itís been like that for every contract and will be that way for all the future contracts.
You mean the Ď06 contact

REAL TIME TRIP TRADING
Better ability to move/drop reserve
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“Forget it he’s rollin”

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You mean the Ď06 contact

REAL TIME TRIP TRADING
Better ability to move/drop reserve
Ha. Figured I had the wrong year....but knew someone would let me know the right date. Weíve lost too much to get it back...which is why you donít give it up to begin with.

I hope we donít get another contract till after I retire....wonder what we will have to give up to get real-time trip trading....maybe give em PBS so we can then real time trip trade.
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Ha. Figured I had the wrong year....but knew someone would let me know the right date. We’ve lost too much to get it back...which is why you don’t give it up to begin with.

I hope we don’t get another contract till after I retire....wonder what we will have to give up to get real-time trip trading....maybe give em PBS so we can then real time trip trade.
Bingo, someone who gets it. Unless the next TA is overwhelmingly good there’s no way I am voting for it. We giving them PBS with the VTO process (yes Kronan your ilk got what you wanted) and now they’re going to strangle us with it.

There’s no need to let them keep slipping bad things into the contract for perceived good deals.
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Ha. Figured I had the wrong year....but knew someone would let me know the right date. Weíve lost too much to get it back...which is why you donít give it up to begin with.

I hope we donít get another contract till after I retire....wonder what we will have to give up to get real-time trip trading....maybe give em PBS so we can then real time trip trade.
No biggie.. Wasnít trying to be an A-hole... Just clarifying..

NO PBS
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Been here a few years, came from a couple regionals that had PBS, so it was all I knew up till I got hired here. PBS sucks. I hope to never go back to that.
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Bingo, someone who gets it. Unless the next TA is overwhelmingly good thereís no way I am voting for it. We giving them PBS with the VTO process (yes Kronan your ilk got what you wanted) and now theyíre going to strangle us with it.

Thereís no need to let them keep slipping bad things into the contract for perceived good deals.
Yes,
because we all know the previous VTO system wasnít PBS.

And we all know that FedEx is expanding the VTO system by hiding scheduled flying instead of publishing trips in the bidpack.

I know itís so because I read it on the internet.


3 times through the new VTO system for me now. 100% of the time no one Junior to me has been awarded a trip I requested, something that NEVER happened during all of my previous trips through VTO land with our weighted/minimal inputs. 2 of my all time favorite ďreasonsĒ reports when I kvetched under the previous system. ďItís a Request. And, ďI missed that input, but you probably wouldnít have been awarded that layover trip at home since it was part of your 4íth request and the other pilot had it as part of his #1Ē

18 VTO Lines Junior to me and someone else was awarded a week of layovers at home for me because I was hoping to not work that week...but if I had to, layovers at home better than having to try and rework the schedule to make it work.
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