How hard is it to get CGN
#11
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 936
Maybe Albie wants a tour in CGN and doesn’t want to sit next to a guy whining about how racist, sexist, and bad for the environment America is. If he says he wants to abandon America because of politics while looking for advice for a job with an American company. He is officially brain dead. Albie just may have given him the best advice short of slapping him upside his empty cranium. Shut your pie hole.
#13
Context.
Interesting and reflective day for some. Lost over 20 friends in the military while serving.
Folks that served all over the world. Politically they were far left, far right and everything in between. We may have disagreed politically, but all died believing in America and our service. We believed in each other. Today, Memorial Day, we honor their sacrifice and that of their surviving family, for our enduring freedom. A joke to many, but not to those who lost what we consider family.
He knows many who paid.....and today we honor those men and women and their families.
Interesting and reflective day for some. Lost over 20 friends in the military while serving.
Folks that served all over the world. Politically they were far left, far right and everything in between. We may have disagreed politically, but all died believing in America and our service. We believed in each other. Today, Memorial Day, we honor their sacrifice and that of their surviving family, for our enduring freedom. A joke to many, but not to those who lost what we consider family.
He knows many who paid.....and today we honor those men and women and their families.
#14
What I read from this: I’m a liberal elite and disagree with the president. I’m not willing to work hard to make this country a better, I’m only willing to “take” the things and will run to another country to avoid any hard work or “embarrassment” while publicly bad mouthing my country.
What I read from this: Many AMERICANS have fought and some died to make the country and world a better place. If you are unwilling to sacrifice, you really shouldn’t enjoy the benefits that others have sacrificed for. Oh by the way, the benevolent country you want to run has dirty laundry too!
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2. I suggest you and your fiance hightail it back to Germany...as fast as you can get there. Our nation obviously offends you. ... When you get home, do me a favor and drive over to Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and a host of other places your grandparents raped and pillaged, and visit some of the American cemeteries that dot the continent with many of our finest. ... They won't like you either.
Happy Memorial Day.
2. I suggest you and your fiance hightail it back to Germany...as fast as you can get there. Our nation obviously offends you. ... When you get home, do me a favor and drive over to Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and a host of other places your grandparents raped and pillaged, and visit some of the American cemeteries that dot the continent with many of our finest. ... They won't like you either.
Happy Memorial Day.
#15
Context.
Interesting and reflective day for some. Lost over 20 friends in the military while serving.
Folks that served all over the world. Politically they were far left, far right and everything in between. We may have disagreed politically, but all died believing in America and our service. We believed in each other. Today, Memorial Day, we honor their sacrifice and that of their surviving family, for our enduring freedom. A joke to many, but not to those who lost what we consider family.
He knows many who paid.....and today we honor those men and women and their families.
Interesting and reflective day for some. Lost over 20 friends in the military while serving.
Folks that served all over the world. Politically they were far left, far right and everything in between. We may have disagreed politically, but all died believing in America and our service. We believed in each other. Today, Memorial Day, we honor their sacrifice and that of their surviving family, for our enduring freedom. A joke to many, but not to those who lost what we consider family.
He knows many who paid.....and today we honor those men and women and their families.
#16
As a new hire, how hard is it to get CGN? I have dual citizenship in USA and DEU (grew up there, got my high school diploma from Germany, Bachelor's in the USA). Speak both fluently, wonder if FEDEX gives a little more emphasize to fluent speakers and nationals? I always preferred the living in Germany over the USA (The fiancee and me want to leave the USA ASAP, for several reasons, mostly political).
EDIT: I know you'll work as an EXPAT (working under an american contract in a foreign country regardless of citizenship). My dad did that for LH in the USA as an Engineer, so every couple of years you have to go back to your home country (used to be after 6 years go to a different country for 2 years, then come back?), but don't know if it changes anything if you're citizen of both countries.
EDIT: I know you'll work as an EXPAT (working under an american contract in a foreign country regardless of citizenship). My dad did that for LH in the USA as an Engineer, so every couple of years you have to go back to your home country (used to be after 6 years go to a different country for 2 years, then come back?), but don't know if it changes anything if you're citizen of both countries.
Wow. No sense in beating around the bush here. This is a pretty good fur ball you’ve started. It isn’t surprising that it will raise a lot of hackles with some of the older guys that have spent time over there in the military. I can’t fault Albie for coming off the top rope (and he’s a great guy who has done yeoman's work for many people here at FedEx...so it isn’t like he has a bad rep as a bad guy, quite the opposite). I see it the same way. You jumped on the wrong nerve and come off as entitled.
It’s cool to want Cologne. But do yourself a favor as a new guy on the property: exercise your freedom to speak candidly about all things...but use some discretion on what you say. The guy sitting next to you may not appreciate you bashing the country (or the current political climate), especially when that guy has lost loved comrades in a prior military life defending your right to speak in such a way. You’d be better served trying to be the best FO you can be and make that your sole goal as a new hire, rather than letting everyone know you and your fiancée have a gripe with our country and want to leave. Low SA, bro. You know?
Peace!
#17
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2006
Position: MD11 Captain
Posts: 364
Spot on, Albie. This ..... has every right to say whatever and live wherever he likes. Precisely because of the sacrifices made by people who believed in this country, whether they liked or reviled the president in office. Let’s hope the OP just had a moment of extreme myopia and didn’t realize how ungrateful and offensive he came off.
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Last edited by tomgoodman; 05-27-2019 at 04:59 PM. Reason: Deleted name-calling
#18
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Posts: 463
1. We work on the seniority system here. FedEx will not "give a little more emphasis to fluent speakers..." if there is someone with 1 seniority number in front of you that wants the spot.
2. I suggest you and your fiance hightail it back to Germany...as fast as you can get there. Our nation obviously offends you. I spent most of my adult life training to fight between the Fulda Gap and the Eifel, and was prepared to die to protect not only Americans, but our former adversaries the Germans as well. When you get home, do me a favor and drive over to Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and a host of other places your grandparents raped and pillaged, and visit some of the American cemeteries that dot the continent with many of our finest. I had the honor of serving stationed in your country, and led some fly-bys over some of those same sacred memorials while I was there. When that trip is over you can go on back home and **** yourself. I can tell you that a good percentage of FedEx pilots were military pilots, and most of the rest that weren't are still very patriotic and proud of our country. I don't want you here. If I find out your name I'll do all I can to let everyone else know it. They won't like you either.
Happy Memorial Day.
2. I suggest you and your fiance hightail it back to Germany...as fast as you can get there. Our nation obviously offends you. I spent most of my adult life training to fight between the Fulda Gap and the Eifel, and was prepared to die to protect not only Americans, but our former adversaries the Germans as well. When you get home, do me a favor and drive over to Belgium, the Netherlands, France, and a host of other places your grandparents raped and pillaged, and visit some of the American cemeteries that dot the continent with many of our finest. I had the honor of serving stationed in your country, and led some fly-bys over some of those same sacred memorials while I was there. When that trip is over you can go on back home and **** yourself. I can tell you that a good percentage of FedEx pilots were military pilots, and most of the rest that weren't are still very patriotic and proud of our country. I don't want you here. If I find out your name I'll do all I can to let everyone else know it. They won't like you either.
Happy Memorial Day.
#19
Salty gets it. On any OTHER day I would have taken the much better advice I give myself as "say what you want to say, say it to yourself, then shut the **** up..." Its good advice I usually try to follow.
However, this week I had to return from the US to my new "home" leaving daughters, friends, many freedoms behind. I spent several hours on social media during the travels and of course was inundated with posts of many of my friends sharing stories of their comrades who had given their lives during their service, and of course thought about my own friends, including a UPT classmate who died in Iraq. Tonight's dinner conversation (we are 12 hours ahead here) included a long report from my teenage daughter about a class speaker today who was involved with the Umbrella protests in Hong Kong in 2014 and why another set of protests are coming in June. Hong Kong is rallying against the proposed extradition law which will allow China to pluck citizens (including Americans) out of Hong Kong to face criminal charges in the Mainland. She asked the speaker if he had any hope of changes or improvement, and his answer was simply "No". Despite the heavy hand of government here, most expats spend most of their time bemoaning American policies and politicians, and seem to make sport of constantly carping about the United States, while turning a blind eye to the issues in the EU, Australia, or right across the river in China. So you caught me...a little homesick, a lot reflective, and long since tired of hearing anything else negative about my country from outsiders.
I've been the outsider, both in Europe and Asia. I lived as a kid in Taiwan, and now live in Hong Kong. I spent two years as a fighter pilot in Europe. I never mocked the Germans when I lived there, belittled their history, or carried myself with sense of superiority. Instead, I made some friends, enjoyed their food and company, and tried to listen and learn. I tried to be a good neighbor, and comply with social norms. My wife took it upon herself to learn some Cantonese, and my daughter speaks some Mandarin, and we don't fly our American Flag over our village house or lecture our friends from around the globe about how screwed up their policies are. We are polite guests, and most days enjoy the chance to see how others live and work. I may feel inside like Merle Haggard some days, but I keep my mouth shut.
The OP showed no such restraint. Like so many expats I've met, he made condescending remarks about the country that I love, miss, and have served as a warrior for over 20 years. He also apparently enjoys many of the opportunities of that same country. He did it on exactly the wrong day. Yes, I'm also a business owner. Yes...I try to support a diverse customer base. But when they finally put me to rest somewhere, and someone hands my family a flag, I expect to meet my God as not an entrepreneur, but as an American soldier that managed to be one of the lucky ones that got the honor of serving but also was rewarded with a long life full of love, family, and friends. This is a Day for those who never got that luxury. It is the most important of National Holidays to me, much more important that even the 4th of July.
So, if I failed anyone's "professional" standard today, that's why. I'm far from perfect. Four years away makes me only appreciate our country even more. And I get cranky...
However, this week I had to return from the US to my new "home" leaving daughters, friends, many freedoms behind. I spent several hours on social media during the travels and of course was inundated with posts of many of my friends sharing stories of their comrades who had given their lives during their service, and of course thought about my own friends, including a UPT classmate who died in Iraq. Tonight's dinner conversation (we are 12 hours ahead here) included a long report from my teenage daughter about a class speaker today who was involved with the Umbrella protests in Hong Kong in 2014 and why another set of protests are coming in June. Hong Kong is rallying against the proposed extradition law which will allow China to pluck citizens (including Americans) out of Hong Kong to face criminal charges in the Mainland. She asked the speaker if he had any hope of changes or improvement, and his answer was simply "No". Despite the heavy hand of government here, most expats spend most of their time bemoaning American policies and politicians, and seem to make sport of constantly carping about the United States, while turning a blind eye to the issues in the EU, Australia, or right across the river in China. So you caught me...a little homesick, a lot reflective, and long since tired of hearing anything else negative about my country from outsiders.
I've been the outsider, both in Europe and Asia. I lived as a kid in Taiwan, and now live in Hong Kong. I spent two years as a fighter pilot in Europe. I never mocked the Germans when I lived there, belittled their history, or carried myself with sense of superiority. Instead, I made some friends, enjoyed their food and company, and tried to listen and learn. I tried to be a good neighbor, and comply with social norms. My wife took it upon herself to learn some Cantonese, and my daughter speaks some Mandarin, and we don't fly our American Flag over our village house or lecture our friends from around the globe about how screwed up their policies are. We are polite guests, and most days enjoy the chance to see how others live and work. I may feel inside like Merle Haggard some days, but I keep my mouth shut.
The OP showed no such restraint. Like so many expats I've met, he made condescending remarks about the country that I love, miss, and have served as a warrior for over 20 years. He also apparently enjoys many of the opportunities of that same country. He did it on exactly the wrong day. Yes, I'm also a business owner. Yes...I try to support a diverse customer base. But when they finally put me to rest somewhere, and someone hands my family a flag, I expect to meet my God as not an entrepreneur, but as an American soldier that managed to be one of the lucky ones that got the honor of serving but also was rewarded with a long life full of love, family, and friends. This is a Day for those who never got that luxury. It is the most important of National Holidays to me, much more important that even the 4th of July.
So, if I failed anyone's "professional" standard today, that's why. I'm far from perfect. Four years away makes me only appreciate our country even more. And I get cranky...
#20
Occasional box hauler
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,636
Salty gets it. On any OTHER day I would have taken the much better advice I give myself as "say what you want to say, say it to yourself, then shut the **** up..." Its good advice I usually try to follow.
However, this week I had to return from the US to my new "home" leaving daughters, friends, many freedoms behind. I spent several hours on social media during the travels and of course was inundated with posts of many of my friends sharing stories of their comrades who had given their lives during their service, and of course thought about my own friends, including a UPT classmate who died in Iraq. Tonight's dinner conversation (we are 12 hours ahead here) included a long report from my teenage daughter about a class speaker today who was involved with the Umbrella protests in Hong Kong in 2014 and why another set of protests are coming in June. Hong Kong is rallying against the proposed extradition law which will allow China to pluck citizens (including Americans) out of Hong Kong to face criminal charges in the Mainland. She asked the speaker if he had any hope of changes or improvement, and his answer was simply "No". Despite the heavy hand of government here, most expats spend most of their time bemoaning American policies and politicians, and seem to make sport of constantly carping about the United States, while turning a blind eye to the issues in the EU, Australia, or right across the river in China. So you caught me...a little homesick, a lot reflective, and long since tired of hearing anything else negative about my country from outsiders.
I've been the outsider, both in Europe and Asia. I lived as a kid in Taiwan, and now live in Hong Kong. I spent two years as a fighter pilot in Europe. I never mocked the Germans when I lived there, belittled their history, or carried myself with sense of superiority. Instead, I made some friends, enjoyed their food and company, and tried to listen and learn. I tried to be a good neighbor, and comply with social norms. My wife took it upon herself to learn some Cantonese, and my daughter speaks some Mandarin, and we don't fly our American Flag over our village house or lecture our friends from around the globe about how screwed up their policies are. We are polite guests, and most days enjoy the chance to see how others live and work. I may feel inside like Merle Haggard some days, but I keep my mouth shut.
The OP showed no such restraint. Like so many expats I've met, he made condescending remarks about the country that I love, miss, and have served as a warrior for over 20 years. He also apparently enjoys many of the opportunities of that same country. He did it on exactly the wrong day. Yes, I'm also a business owner. Yes...I try to support a diverse customer base. But when they finally put me to rest somewhere, and someone hands my family a flag, I expect to meet my God as not an entrepreneur, but as an American soldier that managed to be one of the lucky ones that got the honor of serving but also was rewarded with a long life full of love, family, and friends. This is a Day for those who never got that luxury. It is the most important of National Holidays to me, much more important that even the 4th of July.
So, if I failed anyone's "professional" standard today, that's why. I'm far from perfect. Four years away makes me only appreciate our country even more. And I get cranky...
However, this week I had to return from the US to my new "home" leaving daughters, friends, many freedoms behind. I spent several hours on social media during the travels and of course was inundated with posts of many of my friends sharing stories of their comrades who had given their lives during their service, and of course thought about my own friends, including a UPT classmate who died in Iraq. Tonight's dinner conversation (we are 12 hours ahead here) included a long report from my teenage daughter about a class speaker today who was involved with the Umbrella protests in Hong Kong in 2014 and why another set of protests are coming in June. Hong Kong is rallying against the proposed extradition law which will allow China to pluck citizens (including Americans) out of Hong Kong to face criminal charges in the Mainland. She asked the speaker if he had any hope of changes or improvement, and his answer was simply "No". Despite the heavy hand of government here, most expats spend most of their time bemoaning American policies and politicians, and seem to make sport of constantly carping about the United States, while turning a blind eye to the issues in the EU, Australia, or right across the river in China. So you caught me...a little homesick, a lot reflective, and long since tired of hearing anything else negative about my country from outsiders.
I've been the outsider, both in Europe and Asia. I lived as a kid in Taiwan, and now live in Hong Kong. I spent two years as a fighter pilot in Europe. I never mocked the Germans when I lived there, belittled their history, or carried myself with sense of superiority. Instead, I made some friends, enjoyed their food and company, and tried to listen and learn. I tried to be a good neighbor, and comply with social norms. My wife took it upon herself to learn some Cantonese, and my daughter speaks some Mandarin, and we don't fly our American Flag over our village house or lecture our friends from around the globe about how screwed up their policies are. We are polite guests, and most days enjoy the chance to see how others live and work. I may feel inside like Merle Haggard some days, but I keep my mouth shut.
The OP showed no such restraint. Like so many expats I've met, he made condescending remarks about the country that I love, miss, and have served as a warrior for over 20 years. He also apparently enjoys many of the opportunities of that same country. He did it on exactly the wrong day. Yes, I'm also a business owner. Yes...I try to support a diverse customer base. But when they finally put me to rest somewhere, and someone hands my family a flag, I expect to meet my God as not an entrepreneur, but as an American soldier that managed to be one of the lucky ones that got the honor of serving but also was rewarded with a long life full of love, family, and friends. This is a Day for those who never got that luxury. It is the most important of National Holidays to me, much more important that even the 4th of July.
So, if I failed anyone's "professional" standard today, that's why. I'm far from perfect. Four years away makes me only appreciate our country even more. And I get cranky...
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