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08-24-2019, 02:20 PM
#11
Not a real airline pilot
Joined APC: Jul 2016
Position: Cargo > Pax
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Originally Posted by Huck
So civilian guys can supplement their income just like reservists and guard pilots.....
I love that angle “supplement their income”.
It’s basically a vacation every time I have to take MLA. And it’s SO much better than my widebody FDX life.
Pardon my sarcasm. I know there are guys out there gaming both systems. But that’s not most of us.
If civilian background guys wanted to work 30 days a month juggling two+ jobs, my vote is LET THEM. I’m not in charge of their lives.
08-24-2019, 02:21 PM
#12
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Posts: 554
Originally Posted by Huck
So civilian guys can supplement their income just like reservists and guard pilots.....
BTW, Civilians can still use their licenses as part time sim instructors. Sim time is not flight time. Or work at Home Depot, McDonalds, etc. to supplement income.
Last edited by Flying Boxes; 08-24-2019 at 02:38 PM.
08-24-2019, 03:36 PM
#13
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It's amazing the vitriol triggered by one factual sentence.
And I did have a permission letter to fly part 91, back when you could still get one. Signed by Jack Lewis himself. They cancelled all of them and refused to issue any more about 2008 or so.
Don't know what "fatigue liability" is. But no need to change FAR's. All that's needed is a way to enter commercial flight time into VIPS. Which they were working on at one time, so I heard.
Home Depot? McDonalds? Citationjet contractors are making $750-850 a day. That's alot of lumber-stacking.....
And I did have a permission letter to fly part 91, back when you could still get one. Signed by Jack Lewis himself. They cancelled all of them and refused to issue any more about 2008 or so.
Don't know what "fatigue liability" is. But no need to change FAR's. All that's needed is a way to enter commercial flight time into VIPS. Which they were working on at one time, so I heard.
Home Depot? McDonalds? Citationjet contractors are making $750-850 a day. That's alot of lumber-stacking.....
08-24-2019, 04:44 PM
#14
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
So, you fly for compensation elsewhere and between your outside flying and FedEx flying you've exceeded the regulated flight time limits. You're saying FedEx should have no say or issue with the fact that you've made yourself unavailable for the work they hired you to do?
08-24-2019, 06:00 PM
#15
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If there were a method which would automatically add ones non-FedEx flying hours into the FedEx system, I could see where the company might allow guys to fly at other places on their days off. Without that, they would have to rely on the pilots to accurately report their non-FedEx flying hours. I see this as a major hurdle because of FAR monthly and especially annual limits during peak.
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08-24-2019, 06:25 PM
#16
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What happens if you get violated at the contractor job and lose your license, after FedEx has spent millions training you?
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
08-24-2019, 07:05 PM
#17
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Originally Posted by FDXpilot
What happens if you get violated at the contractor job and lose your license, after FedEx has spent millions training you?
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
08-24-2019, 07:08 PM
#18
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Originally Posted by FDXpilot
What happens if you get violated at the contractor job and lose your license, after FedEx has spent millions training you?
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
08-24-2019, 07:56 PM
#19
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
I’m using the BS card on this one. Other companies do it. If that’s a risk the pilot want to take then it’s their license to lose. Or the company can always pay us for 100hrs per month then I won’t have a problem with it.
Strictly my opinion, but if you can't get by on a FedEx pilots salary alone, then you have severely done it wrong. If you want a side hustle, there are much more profitable ways to go about it that don't require flying.
08-24-2019, 08:58 PM
#20
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Originally Posted by FDXpilot
What happens if you get violated at the contractor job and lose your license, after FedEx has spent millions training you?
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
Do you think they should allow that risk? It's called risk mitigation. They don't want you to do anything outside of work that will cost them. Hence appendix S.
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