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Old 11-10-2019, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX View Post
Regional pilots don’t know what they don’t know. Unless they have buddies that work at major cargo who have a frame of reference, prior passenger airline employment, and that can explain what they don’t know when it comes to differences, they don’t always put cargo at the top of their list.
Absolutely, most regional folks simply aren’t exposed to the operation. Heck, when I was flying out of MSP, DAL was all I knew and UAL/AA wasn’t even considered by most members of that domicile. I’m guessing most crews based in ORD will have UAL as their top pick, and so forth for the crews working within the AA system.

FX wasn’t even on my radar until I jump seated with us a year ago.
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Old 11-17-2019, 03:57 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX View Post
I don’t know about the Air Force, or any military service pilots. Cargo probably fits culturally closer to military pilots compared to passenger flying. But I spent a dozen years at the regionals and the whole time I was there (and speaking with contemporaries at several other regionals), cargo came up about 10% of the time as the top tier of places to work.

Just wait, in a few years, the pilot shortage will hit cargo before it hits any passenger airline.
All the more reason for them to develop single pilot cockpits, followed by full automation.
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Old 11-17-2019, 04:11 AM
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The "big six" of FDX, UPS, SWA, DAL, UAL and AAL will be the very last to feel any pinch in pilot supply, well after you begin seeing it in on-demand cargo carriers, DHL/Amazon contract carriers, ACMI airlines, regional airlines, and ULCCs.

Why? Because these six airlines provide the best compensation, benefits and career progression and will draw from every source of qualified pilots available.

I wouldn't hold my breath for the "pilot shortage" to factor at FDX anymore than I would for single pilot Part 25 operations to provide relief from such "shortage".
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Old 11-17-2019, 11:01 PM
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You know, to this day I still cannot understand why most "regional" guys write off cargo airlines (FedEx, UPS) off, like its not even on the radar. While I understand the intrigue of the legacy carriers, it's not like the two are making chump change. I dunno call me crazy maybe there is a reason why there's such a high concentration of the most impressive and decorated aviators working at these places?
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:53 AM
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Originally Posted by CFIGUY22 View Post
You know, to this day I still cannot understand why most "regional" guys write off cargo airlines (FedEx, UPS) off, like its not even on the radar. While I understand the intrigue of the legacy carriers, it's not like the two are making chump change. I dunno call me crazy maybe there is a reason why there's such a high concentration of the most impressive and decorated aviators working at these places?

I think it’s due to the fact that the cargo carriers are “out of sight, out of mind” for the most part.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:06 AM
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The disgust toward cargo ops is frankly hilarious to me.

The 777 RFO job is the most rockstar job on the planet.

Let the regional people flock to the Big 3 while dodging the horrors of cargo life. Better them than me.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:08 AM
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Back on thread topic, I’ve heard the pool is 200 deep. Any word on how quickly they will drain it? With DAL and UAL wanting to hire 1000+ next year, will those in the pool wait around or try for a major that can get them on property and in class sooner than later?
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:28 AM
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Back on thread topic, I’ve heard the pool is 200 deep. Any word on how quickly they will drain it? With DAL and UAL wanting to hire 1000+ next year, will those in the pool wait around or try for a major that can get them on property and in class sooner than later?
No hiring until FDX New Year next summer.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:34 AM
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Old 11-18-2019, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyPurple View Post
The disgust toward cargo ops is frankly hilarious to me.

The 777 RFO job is the most rockstar job on the planet.

Let the regional people flock to the Big 3 while dodging the horrors of cargo life. Better them than me.
I’m still puzzled why there seems to be this misconception that regional folks don’t want to come here. They do, and a lot already have been. Lots of people from SkyWest, Compass, and Republic in particular from that I’ve seen. There are certainly less, which makes sense because we’re a lot smaller than a legacy airline.
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