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BlueMoon 12-09-2019 02:25 AM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 2935849)
There are loopholes big enough for a 777 to fly through in our scope section, if management wanted to. Also, I’d personally like to see language added to preclude feeders from operating any jet. To me, there is a big difference between a 737 and a 175. Both should be flown by FedEx pilots if FedEx ever bought either type.

Wouldn’t they even under the existing contract?

E170 has a MTOW of 75,000lbs.

I wouldn’t specify just jets either. Include all propulsion types.

FXLAX 12-09-2019 08:23 AM

MD-10's Going Away Sooner
 

Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 2935893)
Wouldn’t they even under the existing contract?



E170 has a MTOW of 75,000lbs.



I wouldn’t specify just jets either. Include all propulsion types.


I was just responding to him that there is a big difference between a 737 and a 175. Wouldn’t want either being outsourced. In our case, they couldn’t.

The 60k pound limitation already applies to all propulsion types. What I’m saying is to also include jets below 60k lbs.

Moosefire 12-09-2019 06:11 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 2935849)
There are loopholes big enough for a 777 to fly through in our scope section, if management wanted to. Also, I’d personally like to see language added to preclude feeders from operating any jet. To me, there is a big difference between a 737 and a 175. Both should be flown by FedEx pilots if FedEx ever bought either type.

Bingo.

For instance. One of my best buds is ANC based for Alaska and frequently flies their freighters. He mentioned to me he was astonished our scope allowed them dedicating entire Alaska operated 737s (the whole jet) to moving FedEx cans. We certainly have the authority to operate in Alaska.

This next ones a bit less solid but I was departing HNL a few weeks ago and Aloha air cargo was waiting for us to vacate the spot on our ramp to park a 737 there. Maybe they’re just using the parking spot, but I know they carry our freight as well. Would be interesting to look into, especially considering that UPS is now flying to LIH.

abides 12-09-2019 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by Moosefire (Post 2936320)
Bingo.

For instance. One of my best buds is ANC based for Alaska and frequently flies their freighters. He mentioned to me he was astonished our scope allowed them dedicating entire Alaska operated 737s (the whole jet) to moving FedEx cans. We certainly have the authority to operate in Alaska.

This next ones a bit less solid but I was departing HNL a few weeks ago and Aloha air cargo was waiting for us to vacate the spot on our ramp to park a 737 there. Maybe they’re just using the parking spot, but I know they carry our freight as well. Would be interesting to look into, especially considering that UPS is now flying to LIH.

Alaska? Come on. It’s Southeast at the most. Farming that out is a huge benefit to FedEx. Can you imagine staffing a station in YUK or SIT? Mechanic, ramp, etc and outfitting our 757 with WAAS gps and building the RNP approaches necessary to make these destinations accessible in all seasons? I’m sure a few 737-700s full of freight doesn’t pencil.

Moosefire 12-10-2019 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by abides (Post 2936370)
Alaska? Come on. It’s Southeast at the most. Farming that out is a huge benefit to FedEx. Can you imagine staffing a station in YUK or SIT? Mechanic, ramp, etc and outfitting our 757 with WAAS gps and building the RNP approaches necessary to make these destinations accessible in all seasons? I’m sure a few 737-700s full of freight doesn’t pencil.

Don’t question your logic, just saying our scope is pretty weak if other companies are operating 737s full of FedEx freight domestically on a regular basis.

FXLAX 12-11-2019 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by abides (Post 2936370)
Alaska? Come on. It’s Southeast at the most. Farming that out is a huge benefit to FedEx. Can you imagine staffing a station in YUK or SIT? Mechanic, ramp, etc and outfitting our 757 with WAAS gps and building the RNP approaches necessary to make these destinations accessible in all seasons? I’m sure a few 737-700s full of freight doesn’t pencil.


Maybe it’s a huge benefit to FedEx. But is it also a huge benefit to the pilots of FedEx? THAT should be the question because I can see how FedEx can make a valid economical argument for farming out a lot more flying that we currently do.

Sluggo_63 12-12-2019 12:51 AM


Originally Posted by Moosefire (Post 2936320)
Bingo.

For instance. One of my best buds is ANC based for Alaska and frequently flies their freighters. He mentioned to me he was astonished our scope allowed them dedicating entire Alaska operated 737s (the whole jet) to moving FedEx cans. We certainly have the authority to operate in Alaska.

This next ones a bit less solid but I was departing HNL a few weeks ago and Aloha air cargo was waiting for us to vacate the spot on our ramp to park a 737 there. Maybe they’re just using the parking spot, but I know they carry our freight as well. Would be interesting to look into, especially considering that UPS is now flying to LIH.

Did you email the Scope Committee about this?

3pointlanding 12-12-2019 04:18 AM

You can forget the MD11 rumor. It is going to be around long time. As for the A330, itis only one of many they are looking at. This from the EVP

abides 12-12-2019 12:51 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 2937188)
Maybe it’s a huge benefit to FedEx. But is it also a huge benefit to the pilots of FedEx? THAT should be the question because I can see how FedEx can make a valid economical argument for farming out a lot more flying that we currently do.

Start your analysis now. Alaska just grounded it’s (3) freighters.

Minimums 12-13-2019 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by BoilerUP (Post 2933207)
The A321 P2F holds 14 AAA/AAY containers, the same amount as FedEx’s 757s and one less than the UPS 757PFs.


Sorry to resurrect an older post, but does anyone know if the A321neo is included in the P2F program? Seems that would be a much better replacement for the 757 aside from the obvious much higher cost than a ceo.


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