Airline Pilot Central Forums

Airline Pilot Central Forums (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/)
-   FedEx (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fedex/)
-   -   VP messages (https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/fedex/126541-vp-messages.html)

NoHaz 01-08-2020 11:06 AM

VP messages
 
Anyone else a bit perplexed by the content on these updates? I always open up the message thinking I’ll see some big news on system form, bids, or future operations. I usually get to the end and go “hmmm, not much there.” This one was no different. Quick reference to challenging earnings so we will cut Transcon and some domestic routes. Then, right on to lengthy rain gutter for airplane going away news and endless holiday party notes.

Fdxlag2 01-08-2020 12:14 PM

Instead of transcons you should have said intercontinentals.

NoHaz 01-08-2020 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by Fdxlag2 (Post 2953628)
Instead of transcons you should have said intercontinentals.

Like a Lincoln?

PurpleToolBox 01-08-2020 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by NoHaz (Post 2953602)
Anyone else a bit perplexed by the content on these updates? I always open up the message thinking I’ll see some big news on system form, bids, or future operations. I usually get to the end and go “hmmm, not much there.” This one was no different. Quick reference to challenging earnings so we will cut Transcon and some domestic routes. Then, right on to lengthy rain gutter for airplane going away news and endless holiday party notes.

Fred Smith was asked why keep Express and Ground/Freight as separate companies. He gave what I thought was a BS answer. But the analyst said it would bring a lot of savings to FedEx.

I wonder if that is what they're examining? UPS's airline is much smaller than ours and I don't think they haul much less than we do.

Precontact 01-08-2020 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox (Post 2953816)
Fred Smith was asked why keep Express and Ground/Freight as separate companies. He gave what I thought was a BS answer. But the analyst said it would bring a lot of savings to FedEx.

I wonder if that is what they're examining? UPS's airline is much smaller than ours and I don't think they haul much less than we do.

That's the gist of what the analyst are complaining about. One driver for UPS will typically stop once or twice at a location - early for the next day air packages and later on for the 2 day/ground packages while the same location may see several different FedEx drivers. The UPS model is much more integrated and efficient, but also highly unionized. UPS Teamsters are one of the largest unions the country.

Tuck 01-08-2020 08:02 PM


Originally Posted by NoHaz (Post 2953602)
Anyone else a bit perplexed by the content on these updates? I always open up the message thinking I’ll see some big news on system form, bids, or future operations. I usually get to the end and go “hmmm, not much there.” This one was no different. Quick reference to challenging earnings so we will cut Transcon and some domestic routes. Then, right on to lengthy rain gutter for airplane going away news and endless holiday party notes.

Standby for the realignment bid....maybe some base closures as well. 2020/21 will be fun years. Hiring this year - didn't seem too positive.

C2078 01-09-2020 05:47 AM


Originally Posted by Precontact (Post 2953839)
That's the gist of what the analyst are complaining about. One driver for UPS will typically stop once or twice at a location - early for the next day air packages and later on for the 2 day/ground packages while the same location may see several different FedEx drivers. The UPS model is much more integrated and efficient, but also highly unionized. UPS Teamsters are one of the largest unions the country.


Fedex uses the contractor/1099 model for Ground, UPS uses integrated system. Even with a highly unionized, in house workforce, operating margins are still higher at UPS, and it has been higher pretty consistently. Maybe this is why WS has been saying all along the split model doesn’t bring the savings Fedex mgmt says it does.


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:56 AM.


User Alert System provided by Advanced User Tagging v3.3.0 (Lite) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
Website Copyright ©2000 - 2017 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands