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Hedley Lamarr 03-19-2020 07:41 AM

JUN2O training bid shows 14 757 FO training slots.
I take it these are for new hires and a glimmer of hope for those swimming in the pool.

Skytrucker01 03-19-2020 08:00 AM

Yes please.


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LunkerHunter 03-19-2020 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by Jma313 (Post 3003667)
Man this thread didn’t age well.

Almost as bad as the recent Delta thread where the pregnant wife was soliciting suggestions for how to convince her sneezing/coughing/mentally unstable husband to call in sick

Cubatticus 03-19-2020 08:34 AM

I couldn’t be more happy to be flying purple tails. As a relatively new guy here I’d be lying if I didn’t have similar thoughts to the OP a few months back. It’s pretty damn clear now how fortunate we are to be at FedEx. This industry sure does turn on a dime. Let’s all hope it gets better soon for everyone’s sake.

wrxpilot 03-22-2020 07:05 PM


Originally Posted by Cubatticus (Post 3003833)
I couldn’t be more happy to be flying purple tails. As a relatively new guy here I’d be lying if I didn’t have similar thoughts to the OP a few months back. It’s pretty damn clear now how fortunate we are to be at FedEx. This industry sure does turn on a dime. Let’s all hope it gets better soon for everyone’s sake.

​​​​​​I think a lot of us newer types were having similar thoughts a few months ago... FDX had a couple less than stellar quarters, they stopped hiring, and the pax carriers were hiring like crazy with nothing but wonderful news and plans for the future.

Of course now any of us that were having those thoughts are extremely grateful to be here right now, with a hopeful but cautious glance towards the future 6-12 months from now. There's absolutely no other pilot job I'd rather be at now than FedEx, and I would imagine that's going to be the case for an extremely long time.

FXLAX 03-22-2020 07:24 PM

The key is to to try not to get too high or too low when the aviation teeter totter swings one way or the other. Especially when you are at FedEx. Many picked this place PRECISELY for times like these. But again, don’t get too high on that either. Nothing is human proof.

Sluggo_63 03-22-2020 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3008178)
The key is to to try not to get too high or too low when the aviation teeter totter swings one way or the other. Especially when you are at FedEx. Many picked this place PRECISELY for times like these. But again, don’t get too high on that either. Nothing is human proof.

Amen. I'm a little concerned that this tremendous house of cards we're living in is a couple positive COVID cases too many from just tumbling down. Fingers crossed it doesn't come to that.

C17B74 03-22-2020 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by FXLAX (Post 3008178)
Nothing is human proof.

Agree with FXLAX, life is unpredictable, timing is everything, and when you believe you have control you sometimes spin out of control beyond anything you could have forecasted/foreseen. This industry is fickle at best and obviously has provided incredible opportunities for those who were fortunate and lucky enough to have exited unscathed, many, many others not so much. Our careers are economy, emotionally, competition/management and health based, etc. regardless on how you “feel” about it. Many of these companies were nothing 30+ years ago compared to what they are today. Some were better, some worse, some were at the bottom and now at the top, others at the top of their game and now either merged or cease to exist; like most businesses it’s always a cyclic event. We make the best decisions we can and cannot control human or Mother Nature. Our industry will always go through disruptions of various sorts and it is not a safe haven, nothing really is - yet we will strive on to provide for our families and enjoy the ride during high times and survive the rough times. While cargo is not immune to ups and downs and absorption of sorts, it historically has been a better bet. Eyes are open, transitions will be made but in the end no one can ascertain if they have had that so called “Great Career” until looking back from the end of the ride. Sometimes the roller coaster does come off the rails, but it’s put back on and riders will show up once again.

As we navigate this unfamiliar territory we must not forget the lessons learned and be better prepared for future events as best we can. I am just thankful this “pandemic” shows signs of being tamped down however you view it and not some never-seen-before highly contagious hybrid/mutant Ebola, Flesh-Eating Bacteria, Hemorrhagic Fever, etc. Although unimaginable for some, this could be far worse. Don’t think we’ve peaked yet by any means and hopefully I’m wrong. More discipline now will ensure quicker gains to normalcy. Be strong.

iarapilot 04-05-2020 05:02 PM

I just saw this thread and the date it was created, and was curious what the poster is thinking now. It might be a lesson.

I would like to think that I was a genius wanting to come here 25 years ago. I figured that there were only 2 big players in this business. And that is still the case. 911 showed that we were in a much better place than the pax. As of now, same for the WuFlu. But you never know what tomorrow brings.

opt0712 08-01-2020 05:03 AM


Originally Posted by busdriver12 (Post 2959342)
I totally understand your concern about the company. We were at the top of the heap in so many ways, and now, not only are we falling behind other carriers, it looks like we have overhired. We are overcapacity by a long shot, earnings have been worse than expected for some time, and there's the fear that Amazon is eating our lunch. If I was fairly junior, I would be worried, especially if I'm passing up opportunities while the pax carriers are hiring like crazy. Fred will likely retire soon, God help us. It's a tough call.


On the positive side, we do have many scheduled retirements, we've never furloughed, and people are always going to want their stuff. I never understood why people hung onto their reserve/guard jobs while working for this company, but I do now. Personally, if I was looking elsewhere, I'd look at Delta, because I think they will be around for a long time. I avoid American and United, because every time it seems to be an unpleasant or mediocre experience. Delta gets me there every time, and it's a minimum of hassle, if one has to be a passenger. Seems that would be a good strategy if you want to stick around for the long term, Delta seems to have it down. And their profit sharing? Wow.


It is so unfortunate the junior pilots even have to consider this.

This aged well.


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