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BrianH 02-07-2021 02:03 PM


Originally Posted by Fr8Master (Post 3182984)
As someone who in a previous life worked very intimately with the FAA, I’m in a good position to say that this is not going to happen in the next two to three decades. This was before the political pressure faced by Boeing now that they proved their “computerized safety devices” actually make planes more likely to crash. And that is just talking about one country...now get every country those planes fly over to sign on to a single pilot type certificated wide body.

Agreed, the NAS is not ready for single pilot ops on a large scale. Add an emergency aircraft into the mix and it gets really interesting fast. It is not going to happen in my career.

Zudd 02-07-2021 05:51 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 3184874)
Which is kind of odd considering the Germanwings "crash" that happened a few years ago (the article does mentions it). I thought for sure that would setback and single pilot air carrier ops for a long time.

But weren't there two pilots on that?

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PolicyWonk 02-07-2021 06:04 PM

Piddlepacks are the wave of the future.

BlueMoon 02-07-2021 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by Zudd (Post 3192111)
But weren't there two pilots on that?

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There was, up until the point one went to the bathroom (the captain) and was locked out of the flight deck by the remaining pilot (The FO).

Zudd 02-07-2021 06:54 PM


Originally Posted by BlueMoon (Post 3192121)
There was, up until the point one went to the bathroom (the captain) and was locked out of the flight deck by the remaining pilot (The FO).

I know. Just sayin

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Thrust Hold 02-07-2021 08:03 PM


Originally Posted by Zudd (Post 3192125)
I know. Just sayin

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Which changed policies for foreign operators. US carriers were already safeguarding against such acts.

CardboardCutout 02-07-2021 09:34 PM

It certainly appears to be an intractable problem to me. Gotta have someone on the airplane to control it for reasons of potential jamming/interference/etc. Person on plane must be able to override any external guidance for similar reasons. Can't have one person riding around who can crash the airplane unopposed (remember the old joke about the pilot and the dog...). Therefore two pilots until perhaps onboard AI, and I don't think that's exactly right over the horzion.

I am also no expert.

BrianH 02-07-2021 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by Thrust Hold (Post 3192136)
Which changed policies for foreign operators. US carriers were already safeguarding against such acts.

For passenger aircraft, just saying...

Overnitefr8 02-08-2021 07:14 AM


Originally Posted by BrianH (Post 3192150)
For passenger aircraft, just saying...

Maybe that's why the lav is in the cockpit on the 767 :rolleyes:

Margaritaville 02-08-2021 07:29 AM


Originally Posted by Python1287 (Post 3181080)
How does everyone feel about Amazon’s new purchase? Starting to own planes outright. Only a dozen, but every long journey begins with a first step. And they certainly have no issues with funding a long journey.

https://www.businessinsider.com/amaz...ng-767s-2021-1

Amazon is going to continue to use the 2000's legacy/regional airline model of a "portfolio of carriers" that they can whipsaw against each other. Amazon owning the planes only makes it that much more viable, because they can really pressure the competing carriers to cut costs, or they take the planes away and give them to someone else. They would be stupid to start an in house carrier, on their own certificate, and take on all that overhead.

Amazon would have to have a 500 aircraft fleet to carry all of their own stuff, plus have room to carry for others. AWS is successful because it doesn't take a huge investment in infrastructure like running an airline does. I wouldn't be surprised to see them spin AWS off at some point either. Like someone said above, Amazon has reached the top of their growth curve. Everyone who is going to use amazon already does. Amazon already has their money in Prime fees, and needs to move the boxes as cheaply as possible. They don't care about quality like FDX and UPS do, if there's a problem, they just refund your money. It's pennies on the sidewalk to them. FDX and UPS will always have the niche of carrying for everyone else who cares about quality. Let amazon be amazon they're no threat to UPS and FDX.


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