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Old 02-25-2020, 04:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Akutan Bandit View Post
Pilots that lateral between A-List carriers amaze me.

With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.

In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.

If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
Complains about not being treated professionally 20 years ago. Turns around and acts unprofessional to the junior guy asking questions. The cognitive dissonance is real.
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Old 02-25-2020, 04:41 AM
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Stay, go, whatever. We are grossly overmanned and it is all a crapshoot no matter how you slice it.
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Old 02-25-2020, 07:31 AM
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I have been here 22+ years. I feel like I hit the jackpot. With some seniority you have many options. Give it some time. FedEx is a stable company. There are always ups and downs.
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Old 02-25-2020, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Akutan Bandit View Post
Pilots that lateral between A-List carriers amaze me.



With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.



In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.



If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.

Personally, I wouldn’t make career/life changing decisions on anecdotal experiences when riding a Jumpseat. But if you are clairvoyant enough to ascertain the culture of an entire pilot group that’s multi-thousands big from these limited experiences, then you are really are the genius here (which might explain your condescending post). No luck or questions needed on your part.
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Old 02-25-2020, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Akutan Bandit View Post
Pilots that lateral between A-List carriers amaze me.

With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.

In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.

If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
This is perhaps one of the worst posts I've seen on this forum, in a very long time. I sir, nominate you for TOTD.
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Old 02-26-2020, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Akutan Bandit View Post
Pilots that lateral between A-List carriers amaze me.

With all the uncertainty in aviation, the crystal ball required to make a substantially better move in moments of "crisis" is a big and clairvoyant one. What makes you think you can second guess the future to that degree? Oh yeah, the fact that you have the ability to extract job offers from multiple carriers.

In the 90's, when i was flying a 207 out of St Mary's Ak, I was routinely jump seating on United and FedEx. I regularly rode on an I.D. that could have been fabricated on a printer at Kinko's....but it wasn't. FedEx guys respected my I.D. and my story, while I was treated like **** at United 50% at the time. Those experiences taught me the value of solidarity and professional respect, and I vowed never to work for United. It also cemented my vow to never apply to any passenger carrying major, because that experience was to a lesser degree repeated at others.

If you're through the pool, indoc, training and IOE at FedEx and you want to jump ship because you think that highly of your brain's ability to future-cast, then you are delusional. You now work as a pilot at a company that has not only survived multiple economic downturns, but has done so with class and style and want to trade that for the stumbling retarded black-sheep of US aviation that only exists because it is too big to fail. If so, then good luck. You'll need it, genius.
Jeebus Kreist, man. Anger issues much?!
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Old 02-26-2020, 04:19 PM
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With chodes like the one on jf advertising PDO bumps... Who wouldn't want to fly here
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Old 02-26-2020, 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot View Post
With chodes like the one on jf advertising PDO bumps... Who wouldn't want to fly here
I saw that - ridiculous.
FedEx isn’t for everyone- it’s been great for me but I understand if a guy wants to fly for their hometown airline. My bet is career earnings at any of the big legacies, UPS, or FDX is roughly the same - just comes down to where you want to be based and the flying you want to do.
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Old 02-27-2020, 01:26 AM
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My bet is career earnings at any of the big legacies, UPS, or FDX is roughly the same.
How can this be your guess if most of the pilots hired at FedEx in the next decade will be in the left seat at highest pay scale within 10 years if they want. Young guys can see 20-25 years at that pay scale. Do you think that’s happening at any big legacy?
Not trying to say there aren’t lots of good reasons to go somewhere else or career earnings are the driving factor. But I think the career earnings variable favors the airlines with short WB upgrade times and a huge percentage of WB aircraft vs their total.
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver View Post
How can this be your guess if most of the pilots hired at FedEx in the next decade will be in the left seat at highest pay scale within 10 years if they want. Young guys can see 20-25 years at that pay scale. Do you think that’s happening at any big legacy?
Not trying to say there aren’t lots of good reasons to go somewhere else or career earnings are the driving factor. But I think the career earnings variable favors the airlines with short WB upgrade times and a huge percentage of WB aircraft vs their total.
Sure, maybe I’m wrong. I’m happy at purple but if I look at my friends hired 5 years ago at Delta, they are either NB captains or WB FO’s. They have a higher pay rate than me and their 401k deposit with cash over cap is likely worth the same as my pension +B fund.
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