Originally Posted by dckozak

Give it another 10 years or so, I think it's entirely possible that pilotless ops will be here or soon on the horizon.

Originally Posted by Shaman

Just some gentle push back on this.

I've been a Delta Diamond Medallion member for 4 years running while at Fedex. I even was able to attain the level of Delta 360 for one year(this is so choice!!). All of the frequent flyer points I accumulated were mine to keep for my personal usage. In a single year I amassed more than 1 million miles. That is about a million times better than any pass benefit which is still space available even on your own carrier. I am by no means an anomaly there are many here who maximize this benefit.

Additionally we have access to ID90 privileges on other carriers. Which in the last year my family has used more than two dozen times to great effect.

This is by no means an attempt to sell someone on coming to Fedex.

That said, I've been here nearly 5 years and I haven't had a 2nd thought about being anywhere else. Its been an amazing ride. Of course YMMV

Originally Posted by C2078

One million miles IN A SINGLE CALENDAR YEAR? And I though I had heard every fairytale.

Originally Posted by C2078

One million miles IN A SINGLE CALENDAR YEAR? And I though I had heard every fairytale.

Originally Posted by C2078

One million miles IN A SINGLE CALENDAR YEAR? And I though I had heard every fairytale.

Originally Posted by dckozak

My take; If you are young, like 30 or less, IMHO cargo will be single pilot ops domestically before you retire and INTL long haul will be non augmented with some kind of allowance for pilots resting (aka, both allowed to be off duty) while enroute. A job that already lacks social interaction relative to pax ops will get worse. Give it another 10 years or so, I think it's entirely possible that pilotless ops will be here or soon on the horizon.

Pay and benefits, (at Fedex) will be comparable to UPS, if history is any guide, just slightly less in terms of pay and benefits, but will we continue to hold some advantages of some soft issues which we, collectively, will continue to look toward as a plus for working at Fedex. At Fedex you will have a good retirement but not a great one, certainly not an advantage over the pax carriers like we boasted 10 years ago. You will never have any kind of decent travel benefit, not that its as good for them (pax pilots) as it used to be, but it is close to non existent for us. In retirement (where it could really be a nice benefit, and presumably is for retired pax staff) it will be even less.

Other advantages, like quick upgrade, more years at WB pay, less likely to be layed off, are all subject to events that can't be accurately predicted.

If you are a social type, like to see where you are going most of the time (day flying) and don't mind some of the noted hassles of dealing with people, than consider that when looking at Fedex/UPS. Our management loves to tell us how much our flying is tougher due to type of operation we a subject to and how much they appreciate our dictation to service. Then they roll the beancounter level management into the room and beat us silly with a stick. Maybe things will change in the future, I wouldn't count on it and you shouldn't either.

Originally Posted by wrxpilot

While I certainly agree that FedEx isn't perfect, our retirement is excellent as long as the union and/or company don't screw it up. WAY better than any Legacy carrier.