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03-31-2020, 03:20 AM

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Stan446

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Just fly your line, no draft, no ava. The company is short is almost every seat. If the company isn't moving the freight, you'll see a change in what they can do,

03-31-2020, 08:39 AM

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I've tried like crazy and live in Memphis and I haven't been able to pickup anything. In fact, while I was in theater, with a deadhead back home, I called scheduling and asked to be extended -- and they said "oh ok" and never heard back.

People are literally bragging on social media about getting draft. I guess you just have bad luck.

03-31-2020, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Stan446

Just fly your line, no draft, no ava. The company is short is almost every seat. If the company isn't moving the freight, you'll see a change in what they can do,

Why are you trolling on the Delta forum? What’s the benefit to that?

03-31-2020, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan446

Just fly your line, no draft, no ava. The company is short is almost every seat. If the company isn't moving the freight, you'll see a change in what they can do,

They are most certainly not short in most every seat - likely not short anywhere except for HKG where there's always extra. Where did you get that idea?

03-31-2020, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay

People are literally bragging on social media about getting draft. I guess you just have bad luck.

No, CRS knows who the crack addicts are and just like any good pusher, they keep feeding the habit. Not everyone can average 100+ credit hours a month, only our special few. You know the guys, the ones that like to brag about their pay and then complain about independent contractors.

04-01-2020, 03:46 AM

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Why are guys using OTP when AVA is being offered? Let the company pay that 150%. I just don’t understand this pilot group. As far as I’m concerned, as long as the company offer AVA, guys should wait until the company is force to pay that 150%

04-01-2020, 04:30 AM

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The company is never "forced" to use AVA.

Just as the company is not "required" to buy back a single vacation after soliciting a vacation buyback.

IMO-AVA is an option, not because the company has too much freight and not enough pilots, but because the company wants the flight scheduled filled sooner. rather than later, if a lot of trips drop into OT

There's only so much OTP @ 125%. There's an unlimited amount of AVA\DFT\VLT. And VLT is always available, even when there hasn't been a vacation buy back solicitation

04-01-2020, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by StarClipper

Well, one reason is that a pilot's OTP expires after three months and its use doesn't have to be approved by scheduling when flying a makeup trip…. you speak as if AVA is automatic for open time trips just because the fcif comes out that it's available for a given month. It's not. It's still at the discretion of CRS.

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04-01-2020, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by StarClipper

I don't think you have a good understanding of how AVA works or maybe you are confusing it with the AVA settlement during peak that expired last year. AVA is at Company's option - if they have plenty of reserves - or SUB, which they seem to have a lot now, the Company will deny it - especially if they have a list of ready VLT guys for that day with no conflicts. With so many daily revisions and cancellations the Company is more reluctant to assign early if they can avoid it. So many trips go away or get revised to an operational jumpseat and the later those get assigned it can save money (or future SUB problems) for the Company. That's a primary reason why AVA does not seem to be going out at 7 days - I've seen it happen closer to the date though.

04-01-2020, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Stan446

Just fly your line, no draft, no ava. The company is short is almost every seat. If the company isn't moving the freight, you'll see a change in what they can do,

This is not the time. We are trying to keep the economy moving, what we do is important, particularly right now. And what is happening to the pax carriers could happen to us at some time in the future. Many people can’t even go home, because they are afraid to expose their families, may as well work. It’s the one thing that actually makes me feel normal right now, and I feel very good about doing my job.

Not accepting trips that are hazardous to your health or fatiguing....that’s a completely different issue. That is something that you should never do. Otherwise, work as much (or as little ) as you like, and I hope people earn max pay doing so.