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Old 03-26-2020, 09:02 PM
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This is a great idea. I'm pretty sure this is a guaranteed job after serving as an instructor for 2 years. Further, my opinion is that they should be given a line number on day 1 as an instructor, meaning after their tour, they'd be a 2-year FO.
Disagree on the seniority bit. Number when you’re eligible to come to the line. Shouldn’t be able to skip A reserve or brutal winter night hub turns while not line qualified and working a “desk” job.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:05 PM
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Disagree on the seniority bit. Number when you’re eligible to come to the line. Shouldn’t be able to skip A reserve or brutal winter night hub turns while not line qualified and working a “desk” job.
I see your point...good one too. However you couldn't convince me for a million bucks (which is what some flex's are close to making lol) to be an instructor at Module C/D...did too much sim instructing/check rides in the AF and don't ever wanna do it again.
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Old 03-26-2020, 10:59 PM
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I disagree with the flow through. Go through the process. If you want to be a life long pro instructor, fine. There have been too many bitter pro instructors who can't fly the line. And I have to hear their excuses every time I do a sim with them. Always old former military guys. They are good instructors but quit lying to them they are going to fly the line. And the few that make it to the line, suck.
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Old 03-27-2020, 12:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Stan446 View Post
I disagree with the flow through. Go through the process. If you want to be a life long pro instructor, fine. There have been too many bitter pro instructors who can't fly the line. And I have to hear their excuses every time I do a sim with them. Always old former military guys. They are good instructors but quit lying to them they are going to fly the line. And the few that make it to the line, suck.
Wow, tell us how you really feel. I went through ITU with a former pro and he's one of the sharpest dudes I've met here.
Operated with him later on too.
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Old 03-27-2020, 10:18 AM
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I disagree with the flow through. Go through the process. If you want to be a life long pro instructor, fine. There have been too many bitter pro instructors who can't fly the line. And I have to hear their excuses every time I do a sim with them. Always old former military guys. They are good instructors but quit lying to them they are going to fly the line. And the few that make it to the line, suck.
You must be an absolute joy to fly with.
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Old 03-27-2020, 07:26 PM
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Why. Plenty of qualified people who have legacy recs. We will have a lot more people applying because of this current situation. The company is short of instructors. So start paying more.
That's just it. The company wants cheap instructors, not expensive line pilots instructing. If they were at Burger King and had it their way, all of the instructors would be pros.

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I disagree with the flow through. Go through the process. If you want to be a life long pro instructor, fine. There have been too many bitter pro instructors who can't fly the line. And I have to hear their excuses every time I do a sim with them. Always old former military guys. They are good instructors but quit lying to them they are going to fly the line. And the few that make it to the line, suck.
Wow what a post. What exactly is "the process?"

It has been my experience that the pros that the pros who made it to the line know their stuff and have no problem flying the line.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Stan446 View Post
I disagree with the flow through. Go through the process. If you want to be a life long pro instructor, fine. There have been too many bitter pro instructors who can't fly the line. And I have to hear their excuses every time I do a sim with them. Always old former military guys. They are good instructors but quit lying to them they are going to fly the line. And the few that make it to the line, suck.

Maybe they would be less “bitter” if they had a flow? Anyway, the one pro in my class is a sharp guy. Many current pilots had nothing but good to say about him.
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Old 03-27-2020, 08:51 PM
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Pay the pros, they’ll stay around and/or we will attract good candidates.

But “no” on the seniority number at date-of-hire. There still needs to be vetting and also no jump in seniority. Being junior here sux and we’ve all been junior on the line — they can be junior on the line too.
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Old 03-30-2020, 12:54 PM
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So, just to be clear, this is not the same thing as Spirit’s instructor program with a guaranteed job after the commitment?

Also what is the pay for instructors?

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Old 03-30-2020, 06:35 PM
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I've heard of quite a few that did their commitment and then did make it past the interview..
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So the interview or the line is after the commitment. Is it the exact same interview as any other applying or the line?

This wouldn’t be a flow, just a guaranteed interview after 2 years.
Originally Posted by 901Dude View Post
This is a great idea. I'm pretty sure this is a guaranteed job after serving as an instructor for 2 years. Further, my opinion is that they should be given a line number on day 1 as an instructor, meaning after their tour, they'd be a 2-year FO.
Don't know about this "new" program but they way the "old" program works now, is after your 2 year commitment, then you get to interview and go through the same process with outside candidates doing the exact same testing, etc., They still need the same min quals required for the pilot position as everybody else. If you don't make it the first time, then you stand a chance of running out of the currency mins and therefore will be stuck in the teaching position unless you find a way to get Turbine time on your own..
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