Sick Grievance
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#3
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2013
Posts: 2,756
Forget about it. If the company wants a sick note, I'll provide a sick note. Even if I'm off a one day trip for a cold. If they want me to go to the doctor, and FedEx wants to pay the $200 doctor's visit charge, and whatever blood tests the doc might order up, even for a freaking cold, it's their money, they can spend it. I have no problem ponying up the $20 copay to avoid harassment. They want a doctor's note, they got it.
Though it's kind of embarrassing when the doctor laughs and says it's kind of weird that we're being treated like grade school kids. I can handle it.
Though it's kind of embarrassing when the doctor laughs and says it's kind of weird that we're being treated like grade school kids. I can handle it.
#5
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: 11CA
Posts: 47
From various reliable sources (and the Fleet Captain handbook):
3 points - any sick event that doesn't fit any other category
4 points - Before a block of R Days or before the end of a Block of R days
5 points - In conjunction with a Check Ride or a Sim Event
6 points - In conjunction with a Holiday or Vacation
Some points hang on for 12 months, others 24 months (e.g. Check Ride/Sim).
At 12 total points in the "look back period", automatic computer generated messages for a doctor's note occurred. Once the Grievance settlement is implemented, the "Sick Czar" (Chief Pilot's designee) will have unfettered ability to analyze this highly complex data and make a decision that will never set any precedent. That seems reasonable!
At 17 points, you were "invited in for a chat".
At 23 points, management could elect to harass you with CBA 15.D.. In their perverted logic, 23 points meets the qualifications of CBA 15.D.1.
As you can see, this is a very complex tracking system (STS) which involves massive computing power and a large staff of programmers to implement (perhaps that is the root cause of our IT problems). That is also why it may take until June 30, 2017 (or perhaps longer if mutually agreed (e.g ".. but in no event.... unless mutually agreed!?!?!?!)) to be able to program in the "massive changes" from the Grievance Settlement.
Will someone like LK or DM be appointed the "Sick Czar"? Will it be a V.P position? Nothing would surprise me at this point.
The really sad part is that many sane, logical, professional solutions to the Sick Leave Usage "problem(s)" exist, but management seems incapable of figuring out what they are.
I guess like Training, Goodwill has no cost.
DISCLAIMER: I checked with Hillary and she is convinced that none of this is classified.
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#6
I suspect that a CBA 15.D medical exam will be with a Company designated doctor with the results going directly to Harvey Watt for their medical expertise (you may not even get a copy of the results). Are 15.D exams paid for by Management (I think they get billed directly to FedEx?).
You shouldn't even have to provide insurance information?
Also ... if you get sent for a 15.D medical exam aren't you supposed to be removed from your trip by Management (RMG) and PAID for said trip?
If you do not live in domicile does the Company have to pay for a hotel and rental car?
All of this seems like a LOT of trouble and expense for a cold!*? So much for FUEL SENSE?
#8
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Aug 2006
Position: leaning to the left
Posts: 4,184
I can't call in sick anymore. And, I won't use any vacation my last year at FDX. I'm trying to build up my sick bank so that I can get the full "End of Career Sick Leave Buy Back" money. I'll receive that, the vacation buyback and the 12 month retirement notice bonus money.
That way, when I retire, I can delay my "Benefit Commencement Date" for almost a year. That, will increase my A-plan benefit, which will help make up for not negotiating an increase in the A-Plan in the contract. I learned all this at one of our retirement seminars. Awesome!!
Sorry, if you catch something from me.
That way, when I retire, I can delay my "Benefit Commencement Date" for almost a year. That, will increase my A-plan benefit, which will help make up for not negotiating an increase in the A-Plan in the contract. I learned all this at one of our retirement seminars. Awesome!!
Sorry, if you catch something from me.
#9
Forget about it. If the company wants a sick note, I'll provide a sick note. Even if I'm off a one day trip for a cold. If they want me to go to the doctor, and FedEx wants to pay the $200 doctor's visit charge, and whatever blood tests the doc might order up, even for a freaking cold, it's their money, they can spend it. I have no problem ponying up the $20 copay to avoid harassment. They want a doctor's note, they got it.
Though it's kind of embarrassing when the doctor laughs and says it's kind of weird that we're being treated like grade school kids. I can handle it.
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#10
What it amounts to is allowing a management pilot, not a doctor, to make a decision to deprive you of your negotiated contractual benefit to be paid on a day you are sick.
What I fear most is pilots using the third method to meet the sick note requirement, the "discussing it with the SCP designee who may conclude the sick note is no longer necessary" method. Heaven only knows what that guy's expertise in medicine and health care is, what his standards will be, whether his decisions will be fair and consistent across the board, just to name a few of the myriad of reasons why it should be a doctor, not a management pilot, making the confirmation that the pilot was sick. This SCP designee will ultimately be given the authority to determine if the pilot was fit to fly, and therefore the Sick is replaced by a Drop, or if he was NOT fit to fly, and therefore let the Sick stand. In the eyes of the FAA, this fitness determination is only to be made by the pilot himself, the guy who called in sick. Finally, the pilot pleading his case before this designated arbiter will be inclined if not pressured to reveal details about his personal health information that are presently protected by HIPAA law. We should have no procedure that puts a pilot in this position.
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