USMC offers $100,000 to go back on Active Dut
01-23-2021, 11:51 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
They could use some of us 'old farts' in the training commands at all levels!
01-23-2021, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chipjumper
Well I’ve been a bureaucrat my whole life so I guess I don’t know what absolute freedom is (I’ve always had to work in oddball locations). Seems like government pilots have it easier than the airlines as they aren’t required to work for free all the time (unpaid time for planning, preflight ops, post flight ops, time away from home, etc). I know mil pilots aren’t hourly but they certainly seem to live a decent life.
I’m quite sure that civilian gov pilots (CBP, JPATS, USFS, etc) certainly get paid hourly for almost every moment they are involved with work. I’ve worked around those folks on and off for a long time and none of them seemed to whine about unpaid work.
Side note: it’s violation of fed law for a civilian fed employee to work without pay.
I’m quite sure that civilian gov pilots (CBP, JPATS, USFS, etc) certainly get paid hourly for almost every moment they are involved with work. I’ve worked around those folks on and off for a long time and none of them seemed to whine about unpaid work.
Side note: it’s violation of fed law for a civilian fed employee to work without pay.
01-23-2021, 02:12 PM
#23
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Originally Posted by hindsight2020
there's always contractor red air if you're still itching to put on the G-suit.
Awesome job.
But still contract work.
Gave that up for stability.
01-24-2021, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Chipjumper
Side note: it’s violation of fed law for a civilian fed employee to work without pay.
01-24-2021, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Chipjumper
Well I’ve been a bureaucrat my whole life so I guess I don’t know what absolute freedom is (I’ve always had to work in oddball locations). Seems like government pilots have it easier than the airlines as they aren’t required to work for free all the time (unpaid time for planning, preflight ops, post flight ops, time away from home, etc). I know mil pilots aren’t hourly but they certainly seem to live a decent life.
I’m quite sure that civilian gov pilots (CBP, JPATS, USFS, etc) certainly get paid hourly for almost every moment they are involved with work. I’ve worked around those folks on and off for a long time and none of them seemed to whine about unpaid work.
Side note: it’s violation of fed law for a civilian fed employee to work without pay.
I’m quite sure that civilian gov pilots (CBP, JPATS, USFS, etc) certainly get paid hourly for almost every moment they are involved with work. I’ve worked around those folks on and off for a long time and none of them seemed to whine about unpaid work.
Side note: it’s violation of fed law for a civilian fed employee to work without pay.
01-24-2021, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
I don't think that's true. When I was a GS-13, I earned plenty of "comp time." I was working not for pay, but for time off. It may be a fine line, but there were plenty of times in a pay week that I had hours worked which weren't paid.
You were compensated as you pointed out.
01-24-2021, 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
I don't think that's true. When I was a GS-13, I earned plenty of "comp time." I was working not for pay, but for time off. It may be a fine line, but there were plenty of times in a pay week that I had hours worked which weren't paid.
When we got off the elevator, we were in the locked elevator lobby. At 5 minutes before the appointed time, one of the supervisors unlocked the doors, so we were able to go to our desks. At the appointed start time we were told we could start work, not a second before.
At 5 minutes before the end of the day, we all had to stop work and stand at the elevator lobby doorway. At the appointed time we all had to file out into the elevator lobby. Within 1 minute we all had to be out, and the door was locked behind us.
During the work hours I will not tell you about the volume of work or the quality of work that was done. Just say some of the clerks hated me for doing my job.
01-24-2021, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by hydrostream
Military aviators having it easier than the airlines. Not being required to do extra work or have time away from home. That stuff.
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