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Old 03-05-2021, 09:04 AM
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If you don’t do anything else today please read the email the union sent out on the companies elimination of soft parameters and the new IND mid morning sort. The union will definitely need our support and feedback on this issue and it is a big one.

This change is going to have consequences on QOL and major fatigue issues ( company thinks it is safe to have 3 separate sleep periods). If you are fatigued do not fly because if you do and there is a problem the companies response will be “ You should have called in fatigue” and will not back you. Be safe out there.
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Old 03-05-2021, 09:38 AM
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Just another example of ALPAs CBA’s side bar “understandings” to come back and bite us bad! Much like deadheads class of service etc.
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Just another example of ALPAs CBA’s side bar “understandings” to come back and bite us bad! Much like deadheads class of service etc.
Nope not a “side bar” as you describe it, but a “soft parameter” that was more restrictive than the current CBA hard rules language per the email. It had an opt out clause by both parties per the agreement. It also has the ability for the disputed pairing process, which disallows them in the bid pack and secondary lines unless you bid them specifically by trip number. It basically allows crews to avoid them, which then creates a need for the company to fix them. That’s what I got from reading the email. So it sounds like it’s in our court as line crew members to exercise our right to not fly them if we want them fixed. It’s also our duty per the email to not fly fatigued. It looks like these could provide a high probability of fatigue. Looks like the company is prepping the field for negotiations. If you want the rest of your career to have pairings built in this manner then feel free to go pick them up. If you don’t like these pairings than don’t bid them or pick them up. Simple. Balls in your court.
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Just another example of ALPAs CBA’s side bar “understandings” to come back and bite us bad! Much like deadheads class of service etc.
Swing and a miss but thanks for playing.
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I’m glad I wasn’t imagining things looking thru the new 767 bid pack. It’s the worst bid pack I’ve ever seen in 2 years flying this plane.
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I’m glad I wasn’t imagining things looking thru the new 767 bid pack. It’s the worst bid pack I’ve ever seen in 2 years flying this plane.
I was thinking the same thing.
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It’s time to get serious about FAR Part 117 rest rules.
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Originally Posted by Temocil27 View Post
I’m glad I wasn’t imagining things looking thru the new 767 bid pack. It’s the worst bid pack I’ve ever seen in 2 years flying this plane.
Look at the Bus bid pack. Worse I have seen since 2006. So I’ll see you’re 2 years and raise you 15.. 🤮
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Yep. My first thought was.. here is the opening salvo to attempt to make us negotiate back to what we currently have.
“You guys and gals are the best ever!” Says every mgmt attaboy...
Buckle up your chin straps; we deserve much better. And if we do gobble up those trips out of open time, it will become the new norm. Please be smart.
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The soft parameters going away (gentlemans agreement) is showing all the weak points of our contract...and there are many. Many times in negotiations they act like “we dont need to fix that bcz Fx has never done that”. FAR 117 is only way out. We cant negotiate out of a paper bag.
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