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05-03-2021, 07:35 PM
#161
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Originally Posted by kronan
The idea that we're going to go into self-help in 2022/23 if we haven't reached an agreement is ludicrous to me, and contrary to how the recent mediations for both UPS and FedEx have played out.
Second, let me remind everyone we haven't had to resort to self-help in the past to convince The Company to negotiate in good faith. Taking a strike vote in 1998 was one way of moving The Company, which didn't even want us to count the vote. (As it turns out, the strike vote was stronger than the TA ratification vote.) Since then, we've seen movement when flights went unmanned.
We don't have to strike to be successful in negotiations. We DO have to demonstrate the willingness and resolve to do whatever it takes. Informational picketing is one example of such a demonstration.
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05-03-2021, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
I think the premium is based on ...
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05-07-2021, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyC
First, let me remind you that self-help is allowed under the RLA. That's a Federal Law. Anyone who claims we will be denied our rights under Federal Law should consider what they're saying.
Second, let me remind everyone we haven't had to resort to self-help in the past to convince The Company to negotiate in good faith. Taking a strike vote in 1998 was one way of moving The Company, which didn't even want us to count the vote. (As it turns out, the strike vote was stronger than the TA ratification vote.) Since then, we've seen movement when flights went unmanned.
We don't have to strike to be successful in negotiations. We DO have to demonstrate the willingness and resolve to do whatever it takes. Informational picketing is one example of such a demonstration.
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Second, let me remind everyone we haven't had to resort to self-help in the past to convince The Company to negotiate in good faith. Taking a strike vote in 1998 was one way of moving The Company, which didn't even want us to count the vote. (As it turns out, the strike vote was stronger than the TA ratification vote.) Since then, we've seen movement when flights went unmanned.
We don't have to strike to be successful in negotiations. We DO have to demonstrate the willingness and resolve to do whatever it takes. Informational picketing is one example of such a demonstration.
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05-08-2021, 06:38 AM
#164
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Originally Posted by TonyC
I'm wondering which version I should give more weight to, the "straight from the PBGC this morning" version, or the "Kronan thinks" version.
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Quite the smoking deal to have PBGC Insurance premiums stop once someone retires...then again, it is a Govt Insurance plan. So, it almost seems like something the Govt would do. I mean, only collect Insurance Premiums for people Actively Employed yet provide Pension Insurance for Active Employees and Retired Employees.
05-14-2021, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kronan
Think you should put more weight on the word "Think"
Quite the smoking deal to have PBGC Insurance premiums stop once someone retires...then again, it is a Govt Insurance plan. So, it almost seems like something the Govt would do. I mean, only collect Insurance Premiums for people Actively Employed yet provide Pension Insurance for Active Employees and Retired Employees.
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05-16-2021, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFDX
You sure about that? I will admit to being wrong but the last time I walked the line was the contract prior to the bridge contract.
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